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Message: <blockquote data-quote="chriton227" data-source="post: 3822950" data-attributes="member: 33263">I like that they included the part about monsters with a BAB high enough to qualify for multiple attacks can make a grapple attempt for each attack its BAB would allow, but there is no mention of any penalty for the iterative attacks (the normal -5 on the second attack, -10 on the third, etc.).  I'm not sure if that is assumed in the grapple check calculation, or if all grapple checks are to be made at the grapple check as calculated with the creatures full BAB.  There is also the oddity that a giant octopus can make a full attack (8 tenticles + 1 bite), if the first tenticle hits and successfully grapples (improved grab), it can use its remaining 8 attacks.  But then on round 2, if it wants to make multiple attacks it is restricted to two attacks by its BAB of +6 and is limited to only using it's primary natural weapon (does this mean iterative attacks with a natural weapon?).  I would have liked to see the Improved Grab rules incorporated into the base Grapple rules to that I wouldn't have to flip around as much, especially since Improved Grab is so common among monsters and opens up other options when grappling (take a -20 on the grapple check and you aren't considered grappled, pull target into your space instead of entering the target's space).</blockquote>