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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 442731" data-attributes="member: 6939">Pax, I disagree that it would make a 'glut' in the market. For a number of reasons.In game: I would assume that some people are making items to sell, for profit. In your world, they make lots of things, including +1 swords. In my world, making more would lead to a reduction in price, so they make other things. Supply and demand. Meta game: The whole economic model for magic items is screwed up anyway. The fact that prices are consistent everywhere, and that there is a consistent 100% markup, etc. It makes no sense. Why isn't someone flooding the market with items at 75%, and making money on volume. Why aren't some items at a premium, since there are not very many of them? Why does a ring of +10 concentration  cost the same as +10 craft (baskets)?So, it does not seem to be unreasonable that the economic 'model' will do just fine with some items being 'more available' Maddman, I think getting a new, better weapon makes more sense than just 'powering up' your old one. To me it feels like the running over a power up in quake, presto more damage.  I like it better when the norm is an item is as made, you can't make everything better all the time. Plus, I think it is too much of an advantage to get it for the 'same price' as if you did it all at once. At the very least, I would charge more (in gold and XP).components==discourage  Yes I agree, that is exactly the reason I do it.bastard sword and DR: not sure your point, they can do the exact same IMCI am not afraid to let them outfit as they see fit, we just disagree on what means they have to accomplish that.Xarlen, sounds like it could be a really cool idea, and could make for some great hooks to adventures. If you can, check out the EarthDawn book/game.  It deals with magic items that way. (sort of) as you get higher level, you can attach more threads, and unlock more powers. (From memory, been a few years)Only concern (and minor) is to watch the 'asset' level. Since you will be giving them more magic for 'free'; just be sure you are not giving as much gold/magic during the campaign. (though it shouldn't be a big deal)St. Gabriel, and I agree. Especially if that bow was 'special' to him somehow. But I would add restrictions to make it 'more special' Like he has to make it from a tree in his grove, cut on a special night. Or that he can upgrade it, but only on holy days for his sect/God.  I don't think these would be particularly difficult, and would make it even more 'cooler' <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />.</blockquote>

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