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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1407277" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>He can if the Rogues flanking him are Roguey enough.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. But according the the Rules of the Game article that the Sage just wrote (as distinct from the actual "rules of the game"), you can only grant a flanking bonus to an ally if your opponent can see you.</p><p></p><p>In 3E, it was pretty unambiguous, once you implemented this rule: A Barbarian-10 can be flanked by two Rogue-14s. But if he closes his eyes, then a/ they cannot flank him (since neither of them have an ally he can see), and b/ he retains his Dex bonus (due to Uncanny Dodge, since all attackers are considered invisible while he's blind, and this application of Uncanny Dodge doesn't take the attacker's Rogue level into account).</p><p></p><p>In 3.5, it's not absolutely clear... because it's no longer certain that Uncanny Dodge allows you to retain your Dex bonus <em>while blind</em>. Your attackers are no longer considered invisible... and it's invisible attackers that uncanny Dodge protects against. Rather, you lose your Dex bonus <em>because you're blind</em>, and Uncanny Dodge says nothing about that.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1407277, member: 1656"] He can if the Rogues flanking him are Roguey enough. Right. But according the the Rules of the Game article that the Sage just wrote (as distinct from the actual "rules of the game"), you can only grant a flanking bonus to an ally if your opponent can see you. In 3E, it was pretty unambiguous, once you implemented this rule: A Barbarian-10 can be flanked by two Rogue-14s. But if he closes his eyes, then a/ they cannot flank him (since neither of them have an ally he can see), and b/ he retains his Dex bonus (due to Uncanny Dodge, since all attackers are considered invisible while he's blind, and this application of Uncanny Dodge doesn't take the attacker's Rogue level into account). In 3.5, it's not absolutely clear... because it's no longer certain that Uncanny Dodge allows you to retain your Dex bonus [i]while blind[/i]. Your attackers are no longer considered invisible... and it's invisible attackers that uncanny Dodge protects against. Rather, you lose your Dex bonus [i]because you're blind[/i], and Uncanny Dodge says nothing about that. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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