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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 393701" data-attributes="member: 2358"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Examples?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm being realistic. There will ALWAYS be the need for ad hoc adjudicating, even in the best systems. As someone said earlier, the purpose here is not to find the perfect system that works 100% of the time. That would be impossible. The best we can do is come close to good approximations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've been listening and keeping notes on how you rate many things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You just proved my point that I am closer than you are. Pit Fiends are weaker than Balors, which in practive and testing are onyl about CR 17, so the Pit Fiend should be about CR 15 or CR 16. Mine comes out to CR 19, which although high, is still closer than your CR 20. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Nah. 100% is impossible. That would take, pardon the pun, divine intervention. Because there is such a vast array of strange creatures out there, there is no system that works correctly for everything. Whatever system you or I come up with, I can create a creature that will break the system without a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With Pit Fiends at CR 20, you're far from perfect, at least by your reasoning that anything less than 100% is broken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 393701, member: 2358"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Examples?[/b] I'm being realistic. There will ALWAYS be the need for ad hoc adjudicating, even in the best systems. As someone said earlier, the purpose here is not to find the perfect system that works 100% of the time. That would be impossible. The best we can do is come close to good approximations. I've been listening and keeping notes on how you rate many things. You just proved my point that I am closer than you are. Pit Fiends are weaker than Balors, which in practive and testing are onyl about CR 17, so the Pit Fiend should be about CR 15 or CR 16. Mine comes out to CR 19, which although high, is still closer than your CR 20. :D Nah. 100% is impossible. That would take, pardon the pun, divine intervention. Because there is such a vast array of strange creatures out there, there is no system that works correctly for everything. Whatever system you or I come up with, I can create a creature that will break the system without a problem. With Pit Fiends at CR 20, you're far from perfect, at least by your reasoning that anything less than 100% is broken. [/QUOTE]
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