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<blockquote data-quote="ccooke" data-source="post: 6432507" data-attributes="member: 6695890">It's also worth noting that there is nothing in the 5e rules that says that you lose the shield's AC bonus if you attack with it.If you have a shield, you can attack with it as an improvised weapon (with disadvantage and without including your proficiency), doing 1d4+ Strength modifier damage on a hit. If you have a shield and proficiency with improvised weapons (for instance, through the Tavern Brawler feat), you can shield bash without disadvantage (and include your proficiency)There is an interesting synergy between Tavern Brawer and Shield Mastery - with both, you can attack with the shield, then take a bonus to shove with it or (if you hit) a bonus to grapple. I can see a character with a shield and empty hand using both of those feats to interesting effect. Maybe a melee caster such as a valour bard, with a spiked shield (I think many GMs would allow that to be made, and do d6 piercing damage) and Expertise with Athletics...... Damn, I think I need to stat that character up at some point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ccooke, post: 6432507, member: 6695890"] It's also worth noting that there is [B]nothing [/B]in the 5e rules that says that you lose the shield's AC bonus if you attack with it. If you have a shield, you can attack with it as an improvised weapon (with disadvantage and without including your proficiency), doing 1d4+ Strength modifier damage on a hit. If you have a shield and proficiency with improvised weapons (for instance, through the [I]Tavern Brawler[/I] feat), you can shield bash without disadvantage (and include your proficiency) There is an interesting synergy between Tavern Brawer and Shield Mastery - with both, you can attack with the shield, then take a bonus to shove with it or (if you hit) a bonus to grapple. I can see a character with a shield and empty hand using both of those feats to interesting effect. Maybe a melee caster such as a valour bard, with a spiked shield (I think many GMs would allow that to be made, and do d6 piercing damage) and Expertise with Athletics... ... Damn, I think I need to stat that character up at some point. [/QUOTE]

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