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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6434922" data-attributes="member: 94389">During the playtest their was traction in adding maneuvers to weapons, so a whip might gain the &quot;trip&quot; manuever, e.g.I still like the idea, and think developing a weapon-granted maneuver system might work. With regards to shields you could have it grant the &quot;Shield Bash&quot; Manuever. If you have any expertise dice (or is called something else now? at work, memory cells lack sufficient coffee) you can use your expertise dice to perform the &quot;Shield Bash&quot; manuever when wielding a shield. If you do not have any expertise dice (a cleric eg) you can perform the &quot;Shield Bash&quot; manuever as if you had 1d1 expertise dice (ie, you only get it once per short rest, and the dice always rolls a 1). Shield Bash is a proficient weapon attack that does 1d4 damage (plus str, plus the expertise dice roll). On a successful attack, the target must make a Str check vs. DC = 5 + Shield Bash Damage or be pushed 5 feet away from attacker (defender chooses).You could do similar things with whips (trips), Great Weapons (cleave/whirlwind), Polearms (dismount, trip) etcI think they key is to allow fighters and expertise dice people to essentially gain a maneuver option depending on weapon loadout, and for non expertise people to gain a weak expertise dice maneuver.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6434922, member: 94389"] During the playtest their was traction in adding maneuvers to weapons, so a whip might gain the "trip" manuever, e.g. I still like the idea, and think developing a weapon-granted maneuver system might work. With regards to shields you could have it grant the "Shield Bash" Manuever. If you have any expertise dice (or is called something else now? at work, memory cells lack sufficient coffee) you can use your expertise dice to perform the "Shield Bash" manuever when wielding a shield. If you do not have any expertise dice (a cleric eg) you can perform the "Shield Bash" manuever as if you had 1d1 expertise dice (ie, you only get it once per short rest, and the dice always rolls a 1). Shield Bash is a proficient weapon attack that does 1d4 damage (plus str, plus the expertise dice roll). On a successful attack, the target must make a Str check vs. DC = 5 + Shield Bash Damage or be pushed 5 feet away from attacker (defender chooses). You could do similar things with whips (trips), Great Weapons (cleave/whirlwind), Polearms (dismount, trip) etc I think they key is to allow fighters and expertise dice people to essentially gain a maneuver option depending on weapon loadout, and for non expertise people to gain a weak expertise dice maneuver. [/QUOTE]

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