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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6096562" data-attributes="member: 17106">I see the analogy with combat XP. After all, killing rabbits is easy to ignore as a player, and an easy call to not award XP for if you're the DM. But, let's take this example:Say a rogue player simply decides to wait for nightfall and pick every lock he can find in each place he goes. Sure, some of them probably are the same, but the bottom line is you potentially have a player derailing the game to do something that is defensible as in-character and yet is metagaming and is really a problem.Ultimately, instead of simply giving advancement for skill use, I think you'd have to give XP for meaningful or challenging skill use, but that has to be operationally defined for each skill, at which point there's just too much text devoted to this idea. I just think it's too hard to implement skill training by skill use or the like, which is why people are struggling to name PnP rpg examples.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 6096562, member: 17106"] I see the analogy with combat XP. After all, killing rabbits is easy to ignore as a player, and an easy call to not award XP for if you're the DM. But, let's take this example: Say a rogue player simply decides to wait for nightfall and pick every lock he can find in each place he goes. Sure, some of them probably are the same, but the bottom line is you potentially have a player derailing the game to do something that is defensible as in-character and yet is metagaming and is really a problem. Ultimately, instead of simply giving advancement for skill use, I think you'd have to give XP for [I]meaningful[/I] or [I]challenging[/I] skill use, but that has to be operationally defined for each skill, at which point there's just too much text devoted to this idea. I just think it's too hard to implement skill training by skill use or the like, which is why people are struggling to name PnP rpg examples. [/QUOTE]

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