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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 4776377" data-attributes="member: 40109"><p>Precisely. All "hide in plain sight" does is allow you to Hide even when someone is watching you, but you still need something to Hide yourself in or behind.</p><p> </p><p>Yep.</p><p> </p><p>Nice try on his part, but no. Sticking a sword in someone's guts tends to draw a lot of attention to you.</p><p> </p><p>A rogue gets to apply sneak attack damage on <strong>any</strong> attack in which (1) his target is flanked, or (2) his target is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC. So all you have to do is ask yourself, for each attack, is one of those conditions in effect?</p><p> </p><p>So if the target is flat-footed because it hasn't acted in combat yet, the rogue is going to get multiple sneak attack damage. First attack: target is denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack applies. Second attack: target is <em>still</em> denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack <em>still</em> applies.</p><p> </p><p>If the rogue is invisible because of an <em>invisibility</em> spell, the first attack breaks the <em>invisibility</em> spell. So first attack: rogue is invisible, so target is denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack applies. Second attack: rogue is no longer invisible, so target is not denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack does not apply. <em>Greater invisibility</em> would change that (since attacking doesn't end the spell). Second attack: rogue is still invisible, so target is still denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack still applies. Hiding follows the same principle, and works like mere <em>invisibility</em> (attacking reveals your presence) rather than <em>greater invisibility</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 4776377, member: 40109"] Precisely. All "hide in plain sight" does is allow you to Hide even when someone is watching you, but you still need something to Hide yourself in or behind. Yep. Nice try on his part, but no. Sticking a sword in someone's guts tends to draw a lot of attention to you. A rogue gets to apply sneak attack damage on [b]any[/b] attack in which (1) his target is flanked, or (2) his target is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC. So all you have to do is ask yourself, for each attack, is one of those conditions in effect? So if the target is flat-footed because it hasn't acted in combat yet, the rogue is going to get multiple sneak attack damage. First attack: target is denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack applies. Second attack: target is [i]still[/i] denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack [i]still[/i] applies. If the rogue is invisible because of an [i]invisibility[/i] spell, the first attack breaks the [I]invisibility[/I] spell. So first attack: rogue is invisible, so target is denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack applies. Second attack: rogue is no longer invisible, so target is not denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack does not apply. [I]Greater invisibility[/I] would change that (since attacking doesn't end the spell). Second attack: rogue is still invisible, so target is still denied Dex bonus to AC, so sneak attack still applies. Hiding follows the same principle, and works like mere [I]invisibility[/I] (attacking reveals your presence) rather than [I]greater invisibility[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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