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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 3270878" data-attributes="member: 172">I agree, but...I think that's a bad solution.Classes are an important representation of what the character is; to divorce a character class from their skills would dilute the meaning of classes in a telling way.My solution here would be to do something like keep the in-class/cross-class caps. But instead of variable costs (which are were most of the pain comes in), give characters points in categories, or even a selection of points that must go to class skills and the rest can go anywhere (like CoC BRP and Cyberpunk 2020). Perhaps give character a background selection that these points can go to.My fixes:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Classes - base classes need to be more generic. Give them more options to minimize the &quot;class mill&quot; effect we are suffering under now. Prestige classes remain, but the need for them is minimized. So now, make a &quot;oral historian/enterainer class&quot; that can be bard or jester, a &quot;holy warrior&quot; that can be more than just a paladin.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psionics - if everyone's uptight about the psion overlapping with the sorcerer and want to make sorcerer a point caster, ditch the sorcerer and replace it with psion. Also, make the psychic warrior more flexible/configurable and replace the monk with it.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skills - more skill points, more categorical skills. The skill system for d20 is really very good, but it is underplayed.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Feats - give out more. They are a nice option, but come out too slow.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Iterative attacks - come up with something better, like a damage boost or free attacks if you make a good enough raw roll. Tracking different modifiers have proven to me to slow high level games to a crawl.</li>
</ul>That's a start.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psion, post: 3270878, member: 172"] I agree, but... I think that's a bad solution. Classes are an important representation of what the character [i]is[/i]; to divorce a character class from their skills would dilute the meaning of classes in a telling way. My solution here would be to do something like keep the in-class/cross-class caps. But instead of variable costs (which are were most of the pain comes in), give characters points in categories, or even a selection of points that must go to class skills and the rest can go anywhere (like CoC BRP and Cyberpunk 2020). Perhaps give character a background selection that these points can go to. My fixes: [list] [*][b]Classes[/b] - base classes need to be more generic. Give them more options to minimize the "class mill" effect we are suffering under now. [b]Prestige classes[/b] remain, but the need for them is minimized. So now, make a "oral historian/enterainer class" that can be bard or jester, a "holy warrior" that can be more than just a paladin. [*][b]Psionics[/b] - if everyone's uptight about the psion overlapping with the sorcerer and want to make sorcerer a point caster, ditch the sorcerer and replace it with psion. Also, make the psychic warrior more flexible/configurable and replace the monk with it. [*][b]Skills[/b] - more skill points, more categorical skills. The skill system for d20 is really very good, but it is underplayed. [*][b]Feats[/b] - give out more. They are a nice option, but come out too slow. [*][b]Iterative attacks[/b] - come up with something better, like a damage boost or free attacks if you make a good enough raw roll. Tracking different modifiers have proven to me to slow high level games to a crawl. [/list] That's a start. [/QUOTE]

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