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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 702810" data-attributes="member: 4937">I also can be nit picky about the way the rules work.  Consider my posts on the 'Slippers of Spider Climbing' thread.  Those posts were based off my experiences as a PC with that item!But I'm also - perhaps as a result of that - as a DM very prone to making up alot of house rules whenever I don't feel the rules are expressive, balanced, or interesting enough.  So, I don't expect nor necessarily even desire my PC's to know all the rules.  Some of my most enjoyable sessions as a DM have been with 1st time players who don't know ANY of the rules, because instead of spending 90% of thier time trying to come up with the best action under the rules they actually role play.  Some of my favorite sessions as a PC have been in games that I didn't understand in the slighteest how combat was resolved.  There is nothing more boring for a DM than a rules only player:"I make a diplomacy check to try to convince the gaurd to let me through the gate.  What DC is that?""I'll make a full attack action... *clatter*, Woohoo, a crit...that's 62 points of damage.""I make a search check on the floor...28, do I find anything?""My character is a fighter with spiked chain proficiency."I don't personally believe it is necessary for a PC to know the rules, although it speeds the game if they know what is required of them when initiative, saving throws, or whatever are needed.  All that is necessary is for the DM to know the rules inside and out.  My basic rule is that if it should work IRL, then it should also work in game.  If it shouldn't work IRL, then it probably doesn't work in the game.  Don't try to abuse the rules and I won't have to write new and less abusable ones.  Don't try to treat my game like a CRPG.PC's should be encouraged NOT to think of thier actions in terms of the rules, but in terms of thier imaginary environment.  Let me figure out how or whether the tactic works.  You worry about role playing.  If I wanted to spend my time worrying about the exact way to move some minatures around some squares, I'd be playing Bloodbowl.I apply my rules fairly.  If in some situation a given rule applies, the same rule is going to always apply whether the character in question is a PC or a NPC.  I don't mind being corrected, though I much prefer it when the PC corrects me during a break in the game or after the session if PC death isn't going to be the immediate result of my wrong interpretation.   But I am NOT going to be bargained with.  If I don't agree, then I don't agree</blockquote>

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