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Message: <blockquote data-quote="InVinoVeritas" data-source="post: 7529209" data-attributes="member: 41485">I think the run of Over The Edge proves that this is not entirely the case, Celebrim, even though I agree with you on some of the particulars.Over The Edge is very rules light, but what it eschews in mechanics, it makes back up in background. Furthermore, by presenting the game as taking place in an ever-shifting web of impossible conspiracies, it leaves the world open to continue to develop that background in a way that can be sold in additional supplements. One thing that has changed over the years has been the focus of play style on a character. In 1e D&D, character design was far less important than character play; in fact, one's skill as a player was measured by how well he could take a mediocre character through a scenario. If, through system mastery, you found a way to make your character dominate, everyone just rolled their eyes and thought you were working against the game rather than with it.By the time you get to 3e, however, build became more important than play. System mastery became something that would earn you cred as a player, and a powerful character was a sign of your ability to work with the game instead of against it. With this model, increasing the number of available ways to fiddle with the character was gold. Heck, one can argue that Pathfinder bloat took this to the extreme, and each new supplement meant further opportunity to max out your toon. With Over The Edge, all that fell by the wayside, and mastery in that system was measured more by how well you could craft an interesting, original story. I mean, no other system would have let me play Jimmy Kuo, feng shui practitioner and master ninja who assassinated targets by breaking into their homes and rearranging their furniture.It's very telling, though, that one thing that Over The Edge and 3e have in common, is Jonathan Tweet. His stamp for game design can definitely be felt in both systems.</blockquote>

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