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Message: <blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9292450" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>This is a good example of the preference in action. I think the more one groks a system the more likely they are to declare it medium. I certainly dont think PF2 is "super heavy" and I dont think 5E is "heavy" compared to the examples above. Then again, I dont believe in medium crunch being a thing. I think the CoC example about being lite until its not sort of attests to the grok level and how folks interpret crunch level.</p></blockquote><p></p>