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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5323996" data-attributes="member: 82106">Hard to say, but then lets think about rituals not really being there. The Full Discipline keyword is presented, which is only useful for Monks, a class that as far as we know does not exist in Essentials and since Essentials is complete with the products we see now it is effectively guaranteed there will be no more Essentials classes, so why is that item there? Perhaps there IS a class in HotFK that uses it, I don't know, but now contrast that with rituals, which as a player resource have been written out of the game effectively. Even if I walk into a game that is being played under Essentials rules and whip out my PHB1 Wizard the DM has NO rule for rituals. If I were to walk in with a Monk the rule exists for THAT. Obviously that won't stop people from mixing and matching stuff, but it kind of says to me that certain aspects of the game have been WRITTEN OUT, not just &quot;this isn't essential&quot; but &quot;We aren't doing this anymore going forward&quot;. Other stuff is provided for in follow on products, like having a Monk.Honestly I don't disagree with you entirely that this should be given too much significance. It could be they just felt like it was pointless to include general rules for rituals when none are presented. Full Discipline OTOH is a paragraph of text and may have just been left in on the theory that &quot;we might as well provide all the keywords anyone might ever see&quot;. Who really knows?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5323996, member: 82106"] Hard to say, but then lets think about rituals not really being there. The Full Discipline keyword is presented, which is only useful for Monks, a class that as far as we know does not exist in Essentials and since Essentials is complete with the products we see now it is effectively guaranteed there will be no more Essentials classes, so why is that item there? Perhaps there IS a class in HotFK that uses it, I don't know, but now contrast that with rituals, which as a player resource have been written out of the game effectively. Even if I walk into a game that is being played under Essentials rules and whip out my PHB1 Wizard the DM has NO rule for rituals. If I were to walk in with a Monk the rule exists for THAT. Obviously that won't stop people from mixing and matching stuff, but it kind of says to me that certain aspects of the game have been WRITTEN OUT, not just "this isn't essential" but "We aren't doing this anymore going forward". Other stuff is provided for in follow on products, like having a Monk. Honestly I don't disagree with you entirely that this should be given too much significance. It could be they just felt like it was pointless to include general rules for rituals when none are presented. Full Discipline OTOH is a paragraph of text and may have just been left in on the theory that "we might as well provide all the keywords anyone might ever see". Who really knows? [/QUOTE]

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