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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1400681" data-attributes="member: 1656">Not in the definition of flanking in the RAW.And even the flavour examples for creatures who are immune to flanking don't always involve perception.A beholder is immune to flanking because it can see in all directions.A grimlock - which is blind, but has blindsight and senses all creatures in a 40' radius - is not immune to flanking.An elemental is immune to flanking because it has no discernible front or back.  Since this is a trait of the elemental type, it applies even to, say, a high level Elemental Savant... who does have a discernible front and back.An ooze or a gibbering mouther cannot be flanked because of their amorphous form.  But a chaos beast can.And then there's the hivemind fiasco with creatures like Formians.It's never stated in the Core rules that perception on the part of the opponent is required for flanking to be valid.  An unconscious orc on the floor can, by the rules as written, be flanked.  (For example, if someone doesn't want to take the FRA to perform a CDG, they could still benefit from the +2.)Certain creatures use perception-based abilities to become immune to flanking (beholder, xorn, etc).  But certain other creatures use non-perception-based abilities to become immune to flanking.-Hyp.</blockquote>