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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1401126" data-attributes="member: 5890">As opposed to the sage, who occasionally just makes stuff up.You know - I think that sticking to the rules is probably the superior option when we're discussing a common rules system.Wow. Surprise surprise. Pulling out the munchkinism brand already. I think that's almost becoming an indirect form of Godwin's law around here.There are rules to playing the game. Those rules define what is and what isn't a good tactic. If turning your back on people becomes a good tactic, then I think there's a problem with the rules. If a sage advice MAKES it a good tactic, then that sage advice has some problems.The DC for hearing an enemy is unchanged by invisibility. Pinpointing his square is liable to be a dc 15 listen check.Are you honestly telling me that characters that can make a dc 15 listen check are rare?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 1401126, member: 5890"] As opposed to the sage, who occasionally just makes stuff up. You know - I think that sticking to the rules is probably the superior option when we're discussing a common rules system. Wow. Surprise surprise. Pulling out the munchkinism brand already. I think that's almost becoming an indirect form of Godwin's law around here. There are rules to playing the game. Those rules define what is and what isn't a good tactic. If turning your back on people becomes a good tactic, then I think there's a problem with the rules. If a sage advice MAKES it a good tactic, then that sage advice has some problems. The DC for hearing an enemy is unchanged by invisibility. Pinpointing his square is liable to be a dc 15 listen check. Are you honestly telling me that characters that can make a dc 15 listen check are rare? [/QUOTE]

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