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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kyramus" data-source="post: 562642" data-attributes="member: 7072">I like the KISS principle. Keep it simple stupid. (not a derogatory remark but what kiss usually stand for).I'd say for each day that they do not get their full 8 hours of sleep (4 hours for elf meditating), give them a -1 penalty to all rolls.  This will show the fatigue, the heaviness of the weapon, the not so superior dex, etc.If they have a -4 or higher, anytime they do something strenous, they need to do either a will check or a concentration check. IE fighting, climbing steep mountains, climbing a tree, casting a spell, etc.Things to break Elven Reverie?That really depends on how you play youre elves.  The SRD doesn't mention that elves don't sleep, just that they are IMMUNE to MAGICAL sleep.So they go to sleep as normal unless for some off chance that they have the meditation feat.  Then all you need to do is wake the elf up somehow before 4 hours are up, preferably every 2 hours.In the case that you do play with reverie. Have it somewhere in the background story that the elf was captured awhile back and was freed.  During the capture he /she was knocked out.  unbeknownst to the character, he/she was grafted with a poison bone.  You could have this particular bone hurt and have problems with his sleep. or have the poison do it, giving him join paints, cramps, throwing up, etc. hehe purely for effect for now, later you could consider placing a bigger penalty on constitution due to the poison being in the body too long.Heck a random encounter every 2 hours that spooks that party would do it.Passing skeletons that don't pay heed to the party but wakes them up with the noise they do (makes pc's paranoid)Ghouls feasting on a body, slobbering adn growling over meat. (again not against the pcs but noisy)The howling of wolves.The heavy steps of a bear.The sudden silence.The hissing of a snake somewhere nearby.In the city,1) cats fighting2) prostitues arguing about who's next to be chosen3) thugs fighting it out4) fire5) mistaken room6) mistaken person7) framed8) framed for murder- wait for deep sleep, someone steals their weapon and returns with it bloody, then let the town guards make the rukus</blockquote>

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