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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6230542" data-attributes="member: 95493">I suspect Ahnehnois is correct. I just wanted to provide citing and some backup.1. As far as I can tell this is meant to be applied only to natural weapons; proficiency with a longsword wouldn't be a part of the Eidolon, though like Ahnehnois, I would say that you have to ask paizo specifically to be 100% sure.2. So, I see nothing that would modify the AC of the character. Though, as already said, there would be a penalty to ATTACK because of lack of proficiency. You get around this by; (a) wielding a weapon with which you have proficiency (a dagger or any other weapon on your proficiency list), (b) not wielding a weapon with which you do not have proficiency (spells would apply here, not a weapon, but you do not rely on unarmed strike attacks), (c) gaining the improved unarmed strike feat (which gives proficiency in unarmed strikes, also allows to respond to AoOs without a weapon in hand). But yeah, the reason he would get a penalty to attack is due to punching an enemy with his fists, when he isn't trained to do so. If he is wielding spells there is no problem, it only applies to making attacks unarmed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 6230542, member: 95493"] I suspect Ahnehnois is correct. I just wanted to provide citing and some backup. 1. As far as I can tell this is meant to be applied only to natural weapons; proficiency with a longsword wouldn't be a part of the Eidolon, though like Ahnehnois, I would say that you have to ask paizo specifically to be 100% sure. 2. So, I see nothing that would modify the AC of the character. Though, as already said, there would be a penalty to ATTACK because of lack of proficiency. You get around this by; (a) wielding a weapon with which you have proficiency (a dagger or any other weapon on your proficiency list), (b) not wielding a weapon with which you do not have proficiency (spells would apply here, not a weapon, but you do not rely on unarmed strike attacks), (c) gaining the improved unarmed strike feat (which gives proficiency in unarmed strikes, also allows to respond to AoOs without a weapon in hand). But yeah, the reason he would get a penalty to attack is due to punching an enemy with his fists, when he isn't trained to do so. If he is wielding spells there is no problem, it only applies to making attacks unarmed. [/QUOTE]

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