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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 568573" data-attributes="member: 8461">I'll shed some light on question 1, leaving the Wall of Fire question to someone a bit more knowledgeable than I.Incorporeality and Ethereality get confused pretty often. This is because any Ethereal creature attacking Prime Material creatures is incorporeal to them. If you journey to the Ethereal plane though, any creatures there are totally solid to you, and you would find Prime Material things ghostly and intangible to you. However, not all creatures with the Incorporeal subtype are necessarily ethereal. Shadows, for example, are incorporeal monsters who don't exist on the Ethereal plane. Such creatures (incorporeal but not ethereal) are simply beings with no substance, instead of beings whose substance is on another plane. The 50% miss chance applies to any non-force effect directed at an incorporeal creature from a material creature (a ghost and a human on the Ethereal plane are both solid to each other).  Magic Missiles, being force effects, ignore the 50% miss chance and automatically hit as per usual. Ghost Touch weapons also ignore the 50% miss chance and hit and do normal damage if the attack roll hits (thats the whole point of the Ghost Touch special quality -  to ignore that 50% miss chance). Every incorporeal creature is subject to these rules.</blockquote>