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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6159266" data-attributes="member: 6669384">One thing you said caught my eye.&nbsp; I have rules regarding players and books:&nbsp; You want to look up a spell that you're using or planning to use?&nbsp; Go for it.You want to look up some item that you have, or are thinking about trying to buy/find?&nbsp; No problem.You want to look up a monster because &quot;We're in Orc country, and could run into them.&quot;&nbsp; I'm down with that.You want to look up a spell, item or monster you're currently facing?&nbsp; BZZZZZT!&nbsp; No way.&nbsp; If you want to know, in character, you make an appropriate Knowledge check, and the DM will tell you what you know, based on the results.Break that rule once, get a warning.Break it too often, or argue the case, get a new character.Break it habitually, get a new game.Beyond that, the hit points listed in the book are an average for that&nbsp; number of hit dice with that bonus.&nbsp; They aren't carved in stone, they're there simply&nbsp; to make a DM's life easier.&nbsp; CON bonuses can vary, Hit Die rolls can vary, nothing about that character/race/creature is carved in stone.&nbsp; There's no reason why some of that&nbsp; race/species won't have more hit points than average, while others might&nbsp; have less.&nbsp; If he challenges that, tell him that that's how averages&nbsp; work, and that being a math guy he should understand that.To the OP:&nbsp; I've never met you, but I know something important about you.&nbsp; You have a quality about you, a &quot;something special&quot; that says you will always have people willing to come to your table, to participate in the stories you and your group creat.&nbsp; What is that quality?&nbsp; You're willing to DM.That's it, plain and simple.&nbsp; Unless you're living in gamer hell, there will be other players around willing to join, to replace this particular jackass.&nbsp; Now maybe I'm being hard on the guy.&nbsp; The thing is, it isn't just your fun that he's ruining.&nbsp; He's an annoyance for *everyone* at the table.&nbsp; Maybe it's okay with you if he wastes your time on the number crunching and rules arguments, but he's also wasting the time and ruining the fantasy of everyone else as well.&nbsp; It's good that you're considerate of his feelings, but also be considerate of the rest of your friends.&nbsp; Talk to the guy outside of the game, explain the issue, that the rules arguments and number crunching are leeching the fun out of the game.&nbsp; And if game isn't fun, why are you doing it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6159266, member: 6669384"] One thing you said caught my eye. I have rules regarding players and books: You want to look up a spell that you're using or planning to use? Go for it. You want to look up some item that you have, or are thinking about trying to buy/find? No problem. You want to look up a monster because "We're in Orc country, and could run into them." I'm down with that. You want to look up a spell, item or monster you're currently facing? BZZZZZT! No way. If you want to know, in character, you make an appropriate Knowledge check, and the DM will tell you what you know, based on the results. Break that rule once, get a warning. Break it too often, or argue the case, get a new character. Break it habitually, get a new game. Beyond that, the hit points listed in the book are an average for that number of hit dice with that bonus. They aren't carved in stone, they're there simply to make a DM's life easier. CON bonuses can vary, Hit Die rolls can vary, nothing about that character/race/creature is carved in stone. There's no reason why some of that race/species won't have more hit points than average, while others might have less. If he challenges that, tell him that that's how averages work, and that being a math guy he should understand that. To the OP: I've never met you, but I know something important about you. You have a quality about you, a "something special" that says you will always have people willing to come to your table, to participate in the stories you and your group creat. What is that quality? You're willing to DM. That's it, plain and simple. Unless you're living in gamer hell, there will be other players around willing to join, to replace this particular jackass. Now maybe I'm being hard on the guy. The thing is, it isn't just your fun that he's ruining. He's an annoyance for *everyone* at the table. Maybe it's okay with you if he wastes your time on the number crunching and rules arguments, but he's also wasting the time and ruining the fantasy of everyone else as well. It's good that you're considerate of his feelings, but also be considerate of the rest of your friends. Talk to the guy outside of the game, explain the issue, that the rules arguments and number crunching are leeching the fun out of the game. And if game isn't fun, why are you doing it? [/QUOTE]

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