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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9042038" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>So you would agree with the above, that if you ask your significant other, "Where would you like to eat tonight?" then an informative, effective answer is, "Somewhere good"?</p><p></p><p>Because that's my problem here. Responding to, "Where should we eat?" with "Somewhere tasty" is useless. Obviously! You should <em>obviously</em> pick something that tastes good! But what does "tastes good" mean? Each of us has different taste. Different places produce the same food different ways--e.g. even within the narrow space of "burger restaurant," I may vastly prefer the taste of fries from Restaurant A but vastly prefer the actual burgers from Restaurant B. (For me personally, I prefer Arby's curly fries but generally prefer burgers from Burgerville, or Carl's Jr. if BV isn't available.)</p><p></p><p>Instead, you need to start earlier. What do you want to eat? Burgers? Tacos or tex-mex? Chinese? Pizza? THen <em>at that point</em> you can, as said above, start talking about the tastiness of various things. Or if you're cooking for yourself, you need to pick a recipe <em>and then</em> make that recipe tasty.</p><p></p><p><em>Starting</em> from "make something fun" gets you nowhere. You need a destination first, and then you can work on making both that destination and the journey to it as fun as possible. Starting from "make something tasty" gets you nowhere. You need <em>something</em> you're going for. Perhaps you fully improvise the whole way along--I've done that, more than once, when I had to figure out <em>something</em> to make and just had a cabinet full of random bits. Did I want to produce something tasty (and nutritious)? Absolutely! Was I <em>solely cooking for what tastes good?</em> Not at all! I was navigating a difficult challenge: <em>make a meal out of these ingredients, and no others</em>. I had several goals: timeliness (gotta get the food on the table before people riot...or at least before they go to bed), flavor, nutrition, practicality, efficiency. To have prioritized taste above all else would have ruined the effort, <em>even though</em> I certainly agree that making the food edible is essential! (In the end, I ended up making a slightly unorthodox pork stew using various miscellaneous canned vegetables and vegetable purees we had on hand. It was pretty good for being only half an hour from "dear God what are we going to eat tonight" to serving it up.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9042038, member: 6790260"] So you would agree with the above, that if you ask your significant other, "Where would you like to eat tonight?" then an informative, effective answer is, "Somewhere good"? Because that's my problem here. Responding to, "Where should we eat?" with "Somewhere tasty" is useless. Obviously! You should [I]obviously[/I] pick something that tastes good! But what does "tastes good" mean? Each of us has different taste. Different places produce the same food different ways--e.g. even within the narrow space of "burger restaurant," I may vastly prefer the taste of fries from Restaurant A but vastly prefer the actual burgers from Restaurant B. (For me personally, I prefer Arby's curly fries but generally prefer burgers from Burgerville, or Carl's Jr. if BV isn't available.) Instead, you need to start earlier. What do you want to eat? Burgers? Tacos or tex-mex? Chinese? Pizza? THen [I]at that point[/I] you can, as said above, start talking about the tastiness of various things. Or if you're cooking for yourself, you need to pick a recipe [I]and then[/I] make that recipe tasty. [I]Starting[/I] from "make something fun" gets you nowhere. You need a destination first, and then you can work on making both that destination and the journey to it as fun as possible. Starting from "make something tasty" gets you nowhere. You need [I]something[/I] you're going for. Perhaps you fully improvise the whole way along--I've done that, more than once, when I had to figure out [I]something[/I] to make and just had a cabinet full of random bits. Did I want to produce something tasty (and nutritious)? Absolutely! Was I [I]solely cooking for what tastes good?[/I] Not at all! I was navigating a difficult challenge: [I]make a meal out of these ingredients, and no others[/I]. I had several goals: timeliness (gotta get the food on the table before people riot...or at least before they go to bed), flavor, nutrition, practicality, efficiency. To have prioritized taste above all else would have ruined the effort, [I]even though[/I] I certainly agree that making the food edible is essential! (In the end, I ended up making a slightly unorthodox pork stew using various miscellaneous canned vegetables and vegetable purees we had on hand. It was pretty good for being only half an hour from "dear God what are we going to eat tonight" to serving it up.) [/QUOTE]
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