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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6292158" data-attributes="member: 27160">Lots of good systems mentioned, here - some I have tried (FATE Core definitely works for me, and Fiasco), some I haven't (Savage Worlds, which I own and want to try but need time, for example) - but I'll try to add some new ones.I actually find D&D 4E hits the marks, for me.1. Search and Handling time: I don't need to know all the character abilities - the players deal with that, and have cards with the technical details to do so - and the monster stat. blocks have everything I need to run them. We rarely need to look anything up during play; the core of the rules just make so much sense to me that I can remember them all. I just grok them, I suppose. 2. Information Handiness: We use power cards and monster stat. block cards; with those and the GM's screen I have almost everything I ever need to hand at all times. 3. No need to houserule: In running a complete campaign up to Epic levels, the only thing I have felt the need to houserule is to not change the magic item rules when the "rarity" stuff was foisted in as part of Essentials. Other than that, I am hankering to try out a few ideas when I start my next 4E campaign, but feel no need whatsoever to houserule the current one. 4. Playing Should Feel as Intended: I'm not entirely sure what was intended, but it feels like generic high fantasy adventuring, to me, which is what I associate with D&D (so it can't be failing completely). 5. Coherence: I think this is a key 4E strength and it's probably the reason I just "get" the rules and hardly ever need to look them up. Internal consistency is sound, as far as I can see.All that said, I definitely don't believe in "One True System", and these other games have done a super job, for me, with different styles of game:- Pendragon. It's tied to Arthurian Knights, but for them it just *works*. Any edition would do, but I think 3e is my favourite. - Universalis. Like Fiasco, it's not traditional in form, but it has simple, clear rules that cover all the cases (and there is no GM, so you don't have that crutch to rely on when rules are missing). - DragonQuest. Long out of print and with a very different ethos than D&D, this nevertheless provides rules that Just. Make. Sense. - Theatrix. Needs the right group, and is very non-traditional, again, but this is the best take on how to make diceless, pure GM-judgement work in a game. Coming from me, that's some compliment! - HârnMaster. It's old and it looks scary complex at first glance, but once it "clicks" for you it's actually smooth and simple in play. Also gives a very, very different feel from "standard" fantasy RPGs. You could run a soap opera game in HM, and it would work a treat. - Bushido. Tied to Mythological Japan, although the related "Daredevils" uses the same basic system for pulp tales (and is also good). Bushido is almost the "original E6"; it uses only 6 levels, and you can lose as well as gain levels (if you lose "face", you can lose level). Captures the theme brilliantly, and is simple yet makes sense (for the genre) as a system.I think those cover all the ones I have run that work (for me). Several others look very good, but I haven't actually used in anger. 13th Age, Hillfolk and the aforementioned Savage Worlds would be the main ones, there.Hope that helps!</blockquote>

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