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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9872654" data-attributes="member: 7026594">This.Not sure why people didn't just read the rules I quoted. It's right in that text.The original death at -10 rule is the one in the 1E DMG, but you only qualify to bleed until -10 if knocked to exactly 0HP, or optionally as low as -3.  Under the 1E rule if damage takes you to -1 or below (or, optionally, -4 or below) you just die.  If you're knocked to 0 (or optionally as low as -3) you get the bleeding rule and can last until -10.  Here, I'll quote it again.1979 1E DMG p 82:2E made the whole thing an optional rule and simplified it so you qualify to bleed if you're knocked anywhere between 0 and -9.2E DMG p75:</blockquote>