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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3219206" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>A specific rules exception is not a contradiction.</p><p></p><p>But supporting my claim of Free Actions only during your turn, no problem:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Swift actions can be taken ANY TIME you can take a Free Action with the exception that you are allowed only one per turn.</p><p></p><p>Unlike Immediate Actions, you cannot take a Swift Action when it is not your turn. Hence, you cannot take a Free Action when it is not your turn (unless a specific rules quote indicates otherwise like with a single Readied Free Action). Otherwise, there would be a contradiction of rules here.</p><p></p><p>Your interpretation requires a contradiction of these rules. Mine does not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When there is a strong implication in the rules (as in the case of a free action only during your turn), you have to look at the rules at a whole to determine if the implication is valid or not. We have multiple places here where there is direct indication that Free Actions are only normally done with other actions during your normal turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p>PHB page 135:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just like full-round actions here, free actions are only allowed by this quote on your character's turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Rules of the Game:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20041102a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20041102a</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are multiple entries of this within Rules of the Game.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your interpretation requires: 1) a contradiction between the language of free, swift, and immediate actions; 2) the quotes on page 135 and 139 refer to outside your turn; 3) an assumption that the "turn" language of free actions and of readied actions means "action", not "turn"; 4) the specific language of the speaking free action is not explicit language; 5) the singular language of Readied Actions is not explicit; 6) the words "normal" and "normally" have no meaning in the interpretation; 7) feats that explicitly specify that you can normally do something as a free action during your turn have totally redundant information in them (e.g. Combat Defense); 8) the FAQ is in error here; 9) the Rules of the Game are in error here.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You have to read the entire ruleset here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Like page 135, this only discusses your actions in a normal round. Not AoOs. Not Readied Actions. Not actions outside your normal round or normal turn. The one quote you are relying on for your interpretation is imbedded within the description of what happens in a normal round under Action Types.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3219206, member: 2011"] A specific rules exception is not a contradiction. But supporting my claim of Free Actions only during your turn, no problem: Swift actions can be taken ANY TIME you can take a Free Action with the exception that you are allowed only one per turn. Unlike Immediate Actions, you cannot take a Swift Action when it is not your turn. Hence, you cannot take a Free Action when it is not your turn (unless a specific rules quote indicates otherwise like with a single Readied Free Action). Otherwise, there would be a contradiction of rules here. Your interpretation requires a contradiction of these rules. Mine does not. When there is a strong implication in the rules (as in the case of a free action only during your turn), you have to look at the rules at a whole to determine if the implication is valid or not. We have multiple places here where there is direct indication that Free Actions are only normally done with other actions during your normal turn. PHB page 135: Just like full-round actions here, free actions are only allowed by this quote on your character's turn. Rules of the Game: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20041102a[/url] There are multiple entries of this within Rules of the Game. Your interpretation requires: 1) a contradiction between the language of free, swift, and immediate actions; 2) the quotes on page 135 and 139 refer to outside your turn; 3) an assumption that the "turn" language of free actions and of readied actions means "action", not "turn"; 4) the specific language of the speaking free action is not explicit language; 5) the singular language of Readied Actions is not explicit; 6) the words "normal" and "normally" have no meaning in the interpretation; 7) feats that explicitly specify that you can normally do something as a free action during your turn have totally redundant information in them (e.g. Combat Defense); 8) the FAQ is in error here; 9) the Rules of the Game are in error here. You have to read the entire ruleset here: Like page 135, this only discusses your actions in a normal round. Not AoOs. Not Readied Actions. Not actions outside your normal round or normal turn. The one quote you are relying on for your interpretation is imbedded within the description of what happens in a normal round under Action Types. [/QUOTE]
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