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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 66942" data-attributes="member: 413"><p>Perhaps you are missing one minor point with the spell...No two targets can be more than 30 ft apart. If you can get more than 1 Red Dragon with this, you've got some really stupid dragons...If you can get 12 of them with a single casting, you're a god.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So...with a _realistic_ example(say two adult reds). You've got roughly the same chance to Disintegrate an Adult Red as you do of convincing one to join your side in a fight(given that you can speak it's language or had the foresight to cast tongues). If you're relying on that to keep you alive for more than a round or two in such a fight, you're taking a BIG risk. Besides...Suggestion can be dispelled and since an Adult Red is also a 7th level sorcerer, there is a good chance he'll have Dispel Magic as one of his two 3rd level spells(I'd give him Dispel Magic and Haste, most likely). So even if you DO manage to break through the SR of one AND it fails it's save(about a 25% chance) the other will just cast Dispel Magic over and over until it frees it's comrad.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And at 2 skill points per language, languages are NOT that cheap when you've got so many other valuable skills to choose from: Spellcraft, concentration, knowledge, listen, spot, etc, etc. You'd be far better off learning Tongues and scribing it on some scrolls than trying to learn more than 2 or 3 extra languages.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uller, post: 66942, member: 413"] Perhaps you are missing one minor point with the spell...No two targets can be more than 30 ft apart. If you can get more than 1 Red Dragon with this, you've got some really stupid dragons...If you can get 12 of them with a single casting, you're a god. So...with a _realistic_ example(say two adult reds). You've got roughly the same chance to Disintegrate an Adult Red as you do of convincing one to join your side in a fight(given that you can speak it's language or had the foresight to cast tongues). If you're relying on that to keep you alive for more than a round or two in such a fight, you're taking a BIG risk. Besides...Suggestion can be dispelled and since an Adult Red is also a 7th level sorcerer, there is a good chance he'll have Dispel Magic as one of his two 3rd level spells(I'd give him Dispel Magic and Haste, most likely). So even if you DO manage to break through the SR of one AND it fails it's save(about a 25% chance) the other will just cast Dispel Magic over and over until it frees it's comrad. And at 2 skill points per language, languages are NOT that cheap when you've got so many other valuable skills to choose from: Spellcraft, concentration, knowledge, listen, spot, etc, etc. You'd be far better off learning Tongues and scribing it on some scrolls than trying to learn more than 2 or 3 extra languages. [/QUOTE]
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