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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8265002" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Because it's not about 1e.I know the answer to this question; there is no answer. It's possible that I am wrong, but having looked at this several times in the past, having looked at all the core rules, having checked into everything Gygax has said that I am familiar with, having looked at Dragon magazine ... I don't think that there is a single right answer.* It's one of those cases where the rules are, at best, questionable, and at worst, conflicting, and I think it provided a great example that many people weren't familiar with as to rules that don't always jibe. Moreover, given that we have a number of people that aren't familiar with this particular rule conflict, it allows people to look at a set of rules in a way without necessarily having the burden of having to defend their own 3e/4e/5e play practices.In another thread, I noticed someone who was analyzing the rules to 1e using the proper 5e framework (specific beats general), and it made me think about how we approach rules, and rulings, in general. About the heuristics that people are using when they are looking at the rules for D&D, and about how they determine what is a rule, and what is a ruling. This combined with some thoughts I had when I was reading the thread a while back by [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER] regarding Sage Advice in 5e, and how it contrasted with the thoughts I had recently when I was looking back at the assumptions that used to be baked into Sage Advice. So I was using this thread/poll to see how people approached this question and how they would think about the concept of rules, rulings, and rule interpretation in general in D&D- not about 1e; after all, anyone still playing 1e has already decided this the correct way by hunting down and killing every single bard in their campaign.Admittedly, the poll itself has not been tremendously successful (they never are!); the numbers are evenly split, and the leader right now (that half-elves multi-class into bard) is a homebrew suggestion that is the only one that has no support in the rules. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But I have appreciated some of the comments from people detailing the way that they have thought about the problem. It's provided additional information for my eventual post about the topic.*Hey- if someone does know a single right answer, feel free to provide it... I would love to know what it is. This may be shocking to some, but there are other examples of rules conflicts I can use. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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