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Rulings, not Rules: How Will You Solve the Bard / Half Elf Dilemma?
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8265075" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>I think the most natural reading is that bards are a pre-3e prestige class using the dual class rules and as written contradict those rules in the stat prereqs and half-elf aspects.</p><p></p><p>If I had a player ask about being a 1e PH half-elf bard as written I would like the unified single bard class theory that they are bards from the get go, but it looks a lot like a fighter to start who must then switch within the specified window to become like a thief, then switch again within a specified level range to become a bard trained by druids. This would mean they would have the bard limits and options for armor, shields, weapons, alignment, and such from level 1 on when they are like fighters.</p><p></p><p>While the full dual class requirement is a natural and reasonable reading, it is not a necessary one and hidden gnostic 1e technical paths are kind of aesthetically pleasing to make something work with the 1e RAW.</p><p></p><p>I would probably also allow the original bard class from The Strategic Review and the 2e one as options too (I forget if they allow half elves). When I did a Pathfinder 1e to AD&D 1e conversion for while the party entered the Fey First World where reality seemed more primal but ruled by weird esoteric rules that were difficult to parse out, I had the party kitsune bard use the original bard class and not the 1e version as his feyworld version class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8265075, member: 2209"] I think the most natural reading is that bards are a pre-3e prestige class using the dual class rules and as written contradict those rules in the stat prereqs and half-elf aspects. If I had a player ask about being a 1e PH half-elf bard as written I would like the unified single bard class theory that they are bards from the get go, but it looks a lot like a fighter to start who must then switch within the specified window to become like a thief, then switch again within a specified level range to become a bard trained by druids. This would mean they would have the bard limits and options for armor, shields, weapons, alignment, and such from level 1 on when they are like fighters. While the full dual class requirement is a natural and reasonable reading, it is not a necessary one and hidden gnostic 1e technical paths are kind of aesthetically pleasing to make something work with the 1e RAW. I would probably also allow the original bard class from The Strategic Review and the 2e one as options too (I forget if they allow half elves). When I did a Pathfinder 1e to AD&D 1e conversion for while the party entered the Fey First World where reality seemed more primal but ruled by weird esoteric rules that were difficult to parse out, I had the party kitsune bard use the original bard class and not the 1e version as his feyworld version class. [/QUOTE]
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