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<blockquote data-quote="IanB" data-source="post: 3238778" data-attributes="member: 1473"><p>I don't know that I consider it broken, but it is pretty strong.</p><p></p><p>The one thing that seems to be a big assumption that I don't think people should be making, though, is that it is near-automatic for a touch attack with a ray to hit.</p><p></p><p>A target with a touch AC of 10 who has cover and is in melee is effectively sitting at an 18 AC. An 18 AC is not anything like automatic for your average mid level wizard to hit. Say he's level 10, and we'll give him a nice dex of 16. He's shooting his ranged touch attacks at +8, which means he needs a 10 to hit. That's 55%, which isn't anywhere near automatic. Compare that to his chances of taking out his 10th level fighter opponent *entirely* with a tasha's hideous laughter, which probably has somthing like a 16 or 17 DC at that level vs. a will save of around 4 or 5, and it doesn't look that bad to me.</p><p></p><p>Yes, this is just one random comparison at just one level, but I think it matches the reality of the games I've played in pretty well.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Fixed a grammar error.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IanB, post: 3238778, member: 1473"] I don't know that I consider it broken, but it is pretty strong. The one thing that seems to be a big assumption that I don't think people should be making, though, is that it is near-automatic for a touch attack with a ray to hit. A target with a touch AC of 10 who has cover and is in melee is effectively sitting at an 18 AC. An 18 AC is not anything like automatic for your average mid level wizard to hit. Say he's level 10, and we'll give him a nice dex of 16. He's shooting his ranged touch attacks at +8, which means he needs a 10 to hit. That's 55%, which isn't anywhere near automatic. Compare that to his chances of taking out his 10th level fighter opponent *entirely* with a tasha's hideous laughter, which probably has somthing like a 16 or 17 DC at that level vs. a will save of around 4 or 5, and it doesn't look that bad to me. Yes, this is just one random comparison at just one level, but I think it matches the reality of the games I've played in pretty well. EDIT: Fixed a grammar error. [/QUOTE]
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