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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4213750" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I see that there is a possibility for a new paradagm shift. 4E is focussed on providing optimal game playability. That is a goal I agree with, but there are some sacrifices made in regards to "Simulation" and "Rules as Game World Physics". </p><p>Maybe 5E could integrate the 4E gamist aspects and modify the rules to provide better simulative aspects. </p><p>(Can I have Minions Barroom Brawls end not deadly by RAW? Can I tell the story of the high level Captain of the Guard dropping from his horse and dying?)</p><p></p><p>Another possibility is that 5E could go further in the narrative area, and characters will get more "story-telling powers" - say a special ability that allows you to acquire a Connection, the ability to flat out say that the princess you just rescued falls in love with your character, or an ability to declare an opponent as your nemesis. (That's all stuff I remember from the Torg Drama Deck). </p><p></p><p>This approach might even be more likely then the simulationist one, simply because the story-telling aspects of role-playing games are its unique strength compared to computer games. Games don't allow you to affect the story as you see fit, only as far as the programmers have allowed to. A game mechanic that allows you to declare any random NPC as a romantic love interest simply cannot work in a computer game. (Or can it?)</p><p>Collaborative story-telling could be a new design space that is to be explored in 5E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4213750, member: 710"] I see that there is a possibility for a new paradagm shift. 4E is focussed on providing optimal game playability. That is a goal I agree with, but there are some sacrifices made in regards to "Simulation" and "Rules as Game World Physics". Maybe 5E could integrate the 4E gamist aspects and modify the rules to provide better simulative aspects. (Can I have Minions Barroom Brawls end not deadly by RAW? Can I tell the story of the high level Captain of the Guard dropping from his horse and dying?) Another possibility is that 5E could go further in the narrative area, and characters will get more "story-telling powers" - say a special ability that allows you to acquire a Connection, the ability to flat out say that the princess you just rescued falls in love with your character, or an ability to declare an opponent as your nemesis. (That's all stuff I remember from the Torg Drama Deck). This approach might even be more likely then the simulationist one, simply because the story-telling aspects of role-playing games are its unique strength compared to computer games. Games don't allow you to affect the story as you see fit, only as far as the programmers have allowed to. A game mechanic that allows you to declare any random NPC as a romantic love interest simply cannot work in a computer game. (Or can it?) Collaborative story-telling could be a new design space that is to be explored in 5E. [/QUOTE]
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