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<blockquote data-quote="Kalanyr" data-source="post: 1439705" data-attributes="member: 190"><p>An archmage prodigy used to have +7 DC for the cost of a 5th,7th and 9th level spell slot and a 1st level only feat, now for the cost of selfsame feat and 3 5th level spell slots he instead gets +3 Caster Level (Ignoring the bonus spells he got both before and after, and the +6 caster level he would have gotten before for overcoming SR which devaluates the caster level slightly). </p><p></p><p>Although the original was probably overdoing it, the fix is IMO severely overdone the 1st level only feat is rarely superior to the general feat Extra Spell Slot whereas Luck of Heroes is superior to Dodge unless you have a handy supply of Luckstones. </p><p></p><p>The other curse against spellcasters is that the massive DC build was culmulative so that you could work up +11 DC to one school of magic using the above layout and Greater Spell Focus + Spell Focus, now you get +2 DC for 2 feats married with all the above.</p><p></p><p>To get +2 to all you spells it now costs 16 feats vs the 8 (or the 7th level spell slot for spellpower +2) it cost before, whereas it still only requires 3 feats to get +2 saves vs all spells (and a rather large bunch of other stuff to) the relative cost of improving offense is far to great compared to defense. And I'm kind of sad to see this trend continue especially in the realms where it seemed you could actually have a decent chance against the monk , with the cloak of resistance +5. </p><p></p><p>I'm also amused it was the wizard who always copped the brunt of the DC blame in threads considering a Cleric 20/Hierophant 5 lost absolutely nothing and got +10 DC with the right selection of their abilities. </p><p></p><p>I'm sure there are those cheering the decline of the spellcasters power and I'm sure that suits their play styles and more power to them, I'm just saying that it seems wrong from my perspective.</p><p></p><p>EDIT =</p><p>And to try and bring my mindless divergence back on topic, how where a few of the spellcaster Regional Feats improved compared to the FRCS ? I'd like to see if I consider it an equal boost to something like Luck of Heroes got.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kalanyr, post: 1439705, member: 190"] An archmage prodigy used to have +7 DC for the cost of a 5th,7th and 9th level spell slot and a 1st level only feat, now for the cost of selfsame feat and 3 5th level spell slots he instead gets +3 Caster Level (Ignoring the bonus spells he got both before and after, and the +6 caster level he would have gotten before for overcoming SR which devaluates the caster level slightly). Although the original was probably overdoing it, the fix is IMO severely overdone the 1st level only feat is rarely superior to the general feat Extra Spell Slot whereas Luck of Heroes is superior to Dodge unless you have a handy supply of Luckstones. The other curse against spellcasters is that the massive DC build was culmulative so that you could work up +11 DC to one school of magic using the above layout and Greater Spell Focus + Spell Focus, now you get +2 DC for 2 feats married with all the above. To get +2 to all you spells it now costs 16 feats vs the 8 (or the 7th level spell slot for spellpower +2) it cost before, whereas it still only requires 3 feats to get +2 saves vs all spells (and a rather large bunch of other stuff to) the relative cost of improving offense is far to great compared to defense. And I'm kind of sad to see this trend continue especially in the realms where it seemed you could actually have a decent chance against the monk , with the cloak of resistance +5. I'm also amused it was the wizard who always copped the brunt of the DC blame in threads considering a Cleric 20/Hierophant 5 lost absolutely nothing and got +10 DC with the right selection of their abilities. I'm sure there are those cheering the decline of the spellcasters power and I'm sure that suits their play styles and more power to them, I'm just saying that it seems wrong from my perspective. EDIT = And to try and bring my mindless divergence back on topic, how where a few of the spellcaster Regional Feats improved compared to the FRCS ? I'd like to see if I consider it an equal boost to something like Luck of Heroes got. [/QUOTE]
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