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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4646334" data-attributes="member: 80487"><p>The AH-published version of RQ introduced a lot of changes in detail, some of them often judged not so good even by folks who generally prefer it. It added whole sections of rules, but one can still ignore those for which one has no use. There is in sum an impression of greater complexity, due for instance to approaches that get down to single points rather than the old 4-number ability-score bands and 5% skill increments. Moreover, the physical quality of the rule books was notably inferior (saddle stapled, with flimsy cover stock) apart from one (perhaps only UK) perfect-bound edition. Despite my preference for 1st / 2nd, though, I would be delighted to play in a 3rd edition game!</p><p></p><p>A few months ago, I bought from several online shops two 1st edition books, a 2nd, <em>Cults of Prax</em> (1st) and Moon Design's <em>Cult Compendium</em>. It took a bit of looking (and might take some waiting in between such periods of wide availability), but I think I got much more "bang for buck" than I would have with the new Mongoose game.</p><p></p><p>That is an arbitrarily radical departure, and the errata don't "fix" some design choices that I find ill-considered quite apart from being strikingly different. The prices of the books relative to the amount and quality of material also do not seem to me good value.</p><p></p><p>Mongoose appears to have done a much better job with Traveller, chiefly by restraining the impulse to "improve" it. I have not looked at it in detail, but the new combat system (of which the Classic Traveller line already offered several) stood out as different. No doubt the ship construction rules and other systems are likewise changed. However, I suspect that a great deal of CT material would be easily usable with MGT. On the other hand, the FFE reprints (and the CD of PDFs) are quite good bargains -- and even original LBBs ("little black books") are not very expensive when one can find them. From a player's (rather than collector's) perspective, later printings may be preferable; I don't own <em>The Traveller Book</em>, but I wish I did!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 4646334, member: 80487"] The AH-published version of RQ introduced a lot of changes in detail, some of them often judged not so good even by folks who generally prefer it. It added whole sections of rules, but one can still ignore those for which one has no use. There is in sum an impression of greater complexity, due for instance to approaches that get down to single points rather than the old 4-number ability-score bands and 5% skill increments. Moreover, the physical quality of the rule books was notably inferior (saddle stapled, with flimsy cover stock) apart from one (perhaps only UK) perfect-bound edition. Despite my preference for 1st / 2nd, though, I would be delighted to play in a 3rd edition game! A few months ago, I bought from several online shops two 1st edition books, a 2nd, [I]Cults of Prax[/I] (1st) and Moon Design's [I]Cult Compendium[/I]. It took a bit of looking (and might take some waiting in between such periods of wide availability), but I think I got much more "bang for buck" than I would have with the new Mongoose game. That is an arbitrarily radical departure, and the errata don't "fix" some design choices that I find ill-considered quite apart from being strikingly different. The prices of the books relative to the amount and quality of material also do not seem to me good value. Mongoose appears to have done a much better job with Traveller, chiefly by restraining the impulse to "improve" it. I have not looked at it in detail, but the new combat system (of which the Classic Traveller line already offered several) stood out as different. No doubt the ship construction rules and other systems are likewise changed. However, I suspect that a great deal of CT material would be easily usable with MGT. On the other hand, the FFE reprints (and the CD of PDFs) are quite good bargains -- and even original LBBs ("little black books") are not very expensive when one can find them. From a player's (rather than collector's) perspective, later printings may be preferable; I don't own [i]The Traveller Book[/i], but I wish I did! [/QUOTE]
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