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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 5598644" data-attributes="member: 23094">I'm terribly sorry, but that's what you're trying to do.You want to emulate having a spell slot, and then sacrifice it.&nbsp; UMD will let you emulate having spell slots, but you aren't allowed to actually use them (including sacrificing them to activate the staff), just like you can't expend one to have a spell happen.Similarly, emulating &quot;being a Sorcerer&quot; will let you emulate a caster level and a familiar, but you don't actually get a psychic rat following you around and you don't actually gain a caster level thereby.I'm sorry I can't just tell you whatever trick you're trying to pull off will work, but it won't.&nbsp; Runestaves are &quot;+ Spellbook&quot; items for sorcerors, and &quot;+ spontaneous casting&quot; items for wizards.EDIT:And let's say your idea did work - that you could emulate having fake spell slots and then expend these imaginary slots to power a runestaff.&nbsp; Then, let's say you're playing a sorcerer, and you've got a runestaff with a 2nd-level spell in it.&nbsp; Sorcs get 2nd-level spell as Sorcerer 4s.&nbsp; So long as you can hit a DC 24 UMD check, you can cast that spell an unlimited number of times per day, because you'd just emulate having imaginary slots, expend them, and hold on to your regular casting.&nbsp; All you'd need is a +14 bonus to make sure you never critically fail, which is pretty easily doable at rather low levels.No, I'm sorry, your idea does not work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 5598644, member: 23094"] I'm terribly sorry, but [i]that's what you're trying to do.[/i] You want to emulate having a spell slot, and then sacrifice it. UMD will let you emulate having spell slots, but you aren't allowed to actually use them (including sacrificing them to activate the staff), just like you can't expend one to have a spell happen. Similarly, emulating "being a Sorcerer" will let you emulate a caster level and a familiar, but you don't actually get a psychic rat following you around and you don't actually gain a caster level thereby. I'm sorry I can't just tell you whatever trick you're trying to pull off will work, but it won't. Runestaves are "+ Spellbook" items for sorcerors, and "+ spontaneous casting" items for wizards. EDIT: And let's say your idea did work - that you could emulate having fake spell slots and then expend these imaginary slots to power a runestaff. Then, let's say you're playing a sorcerer, and you've got a runestaff with a 2nd-level spell in it. Sorcs get 2nd-level spell as Sorcerer 4s. So long as you can hit a DC 24 UMD check, you can cast that spell an unlimited number of times per day, because you'd just emulate having imaginary slots, expend them, and hold on to your regular casting. All you'd need is a +14 bonus to make sure you never critically fail, which is pretty easily doable at rather low levels. No, I'm sorry, your idea does not work. [/QUOTE]

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