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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cabral" data-source="post: 2790922" data-attributes="member: 1193">So I bought the DMG 2 for two primary reasons: Item templates and Business rules (I kinda wish I went with the Spell Compendium :\)Anyway, I explain to my wife who would like a shop to sell shoes (and weapons and armor) ... It went about like thisOkay, so you're operating out of a horse and carriage so that's -2. you'll need to plop down 8,000 gp capital the roll for profit. because it's low risk and low resources your total modifier is 14 and you can take 10. so 5 gp loss most of the time.What? Why would I do that? Here's some armor ... oh and here take some of my money tooWell it's loss, you're not giving it to the customers ... and in one more level you can take 1 more rank to break evenGreat ... because that's my goal to break evenBut if you take 5 ranks each in Appraise and Diplomacy you'll get a +1 too so that'll mean 5 gold profit5 gold? but what if the item I'm selling is not worth 5g? like shoes. How can I make 5g on shoes per sale?No. It's per month<laughter> Yeah, we're done...So how do I fix it so it's rewarding? I want it to be lucrative enough to risk the 8k to start as well be worth any time (RL time) and skill ranks devoted to the business. Even for a "Low risk" (= low loss, low profit).  In addition I want to take into account what is being sold.My only thoughts so far was to base the profit loss value on the average value of the roll and to add a +1 to every additional "business" in the same location. (ie, you sell shoes and armor it's two "businesses" and the each get +1. If you have a Tavern/Inn/Brewery it's three businesses and they each get +2)Any thoughts?</blockquote>

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