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<blockquote data-quote="TheClone" data-source="post: 5365110" data-attributes="member: 90399"><p>For dming 4e Dark Sun you'll definitely need the campaign setting and the creature catalog. The nasty thing about the creature catalog is that it also contains some major story information, especially about the sorcerer-kings and the Dragon of Tyr and not just monsters. For playing Essentials you may need the red box, if you liek to have a non-Dark Sun introduction to 4e. But if you have experience with other rpgs, you don't need the red box. You just need the heroes of the fallen land and heroes of the forgotten kingdoms. Those contain all the information your players need. As a DM you most probably need the Essentials DM Kit. I guess the Monster Vault or the first Monster Manuel will do no harm either, because some monster from at least the MM can be used in Dark Sun and are not part of the creature catalog.</p><p></p><p>Regarding psionics I'd suggest using the psionic supplement for pre-Essentials builds (Psionic Power is the name iirc). Without any psionic PCs it should be less fun I think. But if you don't like to, leave it out. You don't need the supplement for dming. </p><p></p><p>I suggest buying a DDI subscription because I found it to be useful. But DDI currently has one major drawback: The character builder has no Essentials builds and no themes. But you can use it to build a psionic character and by that don't have to buy any book for that. And hopefully Essentials builds and themes will be added some day (is there any announcement?). But additionally you have the monster builder and soem free stuff also for Dark Sun to use (like the "escaped slave" theme, the Dragon's Altar location and so on).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheClone, post: 5365110, member: 90399"] For dming 4e Dark Sun you'll definitely need the campaign setting and the creature catalog. The nasty thing about the creature catalog is that it also contains some major story information, especially about the sorcerer-kings and the Dragon of Tyr and not just monsters. For playing Essentials you may need the red box, if you liek to have a non-Dark Sun introduction to 4e. But if you have experience with other rpgs, you don't need the red box. You just need the heroes of the fallen land and heroes of the forgotten kingdoms. Those contain all the information your players need. As a DM you most probably need the Essentials DM Kit. I guess the Monster Vault or the first Monster Manuel will do no harm either, because some monster from at least the MM can be used in Dark Sun and are not part of the creature catalog. Regarding psionics I'd suggest using the psionic supplement for pre-Essentials builds (Psionic Power is the name iirc). Without any psionic PCs it should be less fun I think. But if you don't like to, leave it out. You don't need the supplement for dming. I suggest buying a DDI subscription because I found it to be useful. But DDI currently has one major drawback: The character builder has no Essentials builds and no themes. But you can use it to build a psionic character and by that don't have to buy any book for that. And hopefully Essentials builds and themes will be added some day (is there any announcement?). But additionally you have the monster builder and soem free stuff also for Dark Sun to use (like the "escaped slave" theme, the Dragon's Altar location and so on). [/QUOTE]
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