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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3790805" data-attributes="member: 1656">Sorry - I thought you just meant that it appeared as a full-round action on table 8-2.&nbsp; I was just replying to &quot;It doesn't state it's a full round action&quot; with the line where it states it's a full-round action.They are considered to be prone at the point that they take the free action - which is at the conclusion of the full-round action, before the end of their turn.&nbsp; So just after the melee attack, in this case.They suffer the penalty to AC until the start of their next turn.&nbsp; This is because the Charge action says so; even though the full round action is entirely resolved within their turn, the penalty extends beyond it.&nbsp; After the full-round action is complete, they are no longer charging; effects that operate on a 'charging creature' will no longer apply to them.&nbsp; The persistence of the penalty is completely independent of the duration of the Charge action.The bonus (or penalty) to AC for being prone will apply, since they are prone.&nbsp; Against ranged attacks, they will have a -2 penalty from the Charge action, and a +4 bonus for being prone.&nbsp; Against melee attacks, they will have a -2 penalty from the Charge action, and a -4 penalty for being prone.No; the only way a zombie can take a full-round action is with the Start/Complete Full Round Action standard action, which specifically excludes the Run action.Would you, then, consider the character to be 'a charging creature' until the beginning of his next turn?-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3790805, member: 1656"] Sorry - I thought you just meant that it appeared as a full-round action on table 8-2. I was just replying to "It doesn't state it's a full round action" with the line where it states it's a full-round action. They are considered to be prone at the point that they take the free action - which is at the conclusion of the full-round action, before the end of their turn. So just after the melee attack, in this case. They suffer the penalty to AC until the start of their next turn. This is because the Charge action says so; even though the full round action is entirely resolved within their turn, the penalty extends beyond it. After the full-round action is complete, they are no longer charging; effects that operate on a 'charging creature' will no longer apply to them. The persistence of the penalty is completely independent of the duration of the Charge action. The bonus (or penalty) to AC for being prone will apply, since they are prone. Against ranged attacks, they will have a -2 penalty from the Charge action, and a +4 bonus for being prone. Against melee attacks, they will have a -2 penalty from the Charge action, and a -4 penalty for being prone. No; the only way a zombie can take a full-round action is with the Start/Complete Full Round Action standard action, which specifically excludes the Run action. Would you, then, consider the character to be 'a charging creature' until the beginning of his next turn? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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