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<blockquote data-quote="Tersival" data-source="post: 7042328" data-attributes="member: 6792135"><p>It’s been so long since I’ve found and interesting Everton chat, this thread is awesome <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😊" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60a.png" title="Smiling face with smiling eyes :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p>Thank you so much. I was sure I’d seen a write up and map of Thronehold but just Could. Not. Find. It. Again. Myself. </p><p></p><p>Agreed. So far I think they worked best as a prestige class but I don’t see prestige classes coming back in 5E and really like Aldarc’s suggestion that Dragonmarks provide advantage to relevant proficiencies too. That really feels right for 5E and would be a nice balance to the rather lacklustre spell once per long test suggested in the unearthed arcane update, but what skills for each Mark?</p><p></p><p>High praise considering the source, thank you.</p><p></p><p>I feel that might be arguable given what you've shared. I wish I’d come across your ideas before I started my campaign, dragonshards are practically signature items for Eberron! Now I absolutely have to figure out how to incorporate them and have completely missed them so far. </p><p></p><p>I guess I was ambitious but I survived playing through an epic Dragonlance campaign and felt a dragon themed campaign/adventure path should be equally epic. Plus I was rewarding my players’ trust in me moving on to 5E by not penalising their character advancements and so started them off as 12th level renowned veterans of the Last War. </p><p></p><p>Big picture I’m pretty happy with the logic behind my campaign and the related role of dragons in Khorvaire/Eberron...</p><p></p><p>I figured Dragons’ belief Tiamat is imprisoned beneath Argonessan in the Pit of Five Sorrows is reasonably based on draconic eye witness accounts of her fall. They dominate Argonessan, utterly crushed the giants, struck hard against Aerenal, but in Khorvaire they seem secretive or guardians of ancient places of dangerous power. To me this points to them being much more heirs of ancient secrets pond powers than random monsters. </p><p></p><p>If Tiamat did have power to corrupt chromatic dragons/half of dragon kind and the Talons of Tiamat have failed to free her in the 100,000 years since her imprisonment it’s probably because fear of her escape, and the risk of being enslaved again is why dragons dominate Argonessan and likely means they’ve they’re ruthlessly exterminated the cult (along with all possible witnsss?) every time they’ve popped up. </p><p></p><p>If a magical dragon horn could be heard by and summon dragons from across the realms, it would likely draw an overwhelming response by the rulers of Argonnesan so I dropped that entirely.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if there were traces of Tiamat’s corrupting influence left in scales she might have shed in a remote, long forgotten lair, forging these into enchanted masks might let the Talons secretly strengthen their power base dramatically by enslaving vulnerable dragons before Argonessan’s rulers took the threat seriously enough to respond.</p><p></p><p>Details (like featuring Eberron’s iconic dragonshards!) are where I feel I’m falling down.</p><p></p><p>Giants as a coherent power group seems too contrary to canon history to fit Eberron, but some left over “technologies” from when their magic was strong enough to provoke a catastrophic dragon attack, that’s another story. </p><p></p><p>A giant built and giant-ghost powered floating castle are pretty cool, but I think the ghost is better a remnant of the ancient past dominated by the cult (or a powerful vampire employed by the cult perhaps) rather than one influenced by a living giant. So Blagothkus is out but Esclarotta’s ghost is likely favourable towards anyone who might free her from domination, and if they can present a way to strike back at the dragons who destroyed her civilization so much the better!</p><p></p><p>But even starting my party at 12th level (they’re 13 nearly 14 now), they found a clever single adult dragon was deadly. They’re reluctant to risk facing multiple and/or more dragons with or without cultists in tow.</p><p></p><p>Uniting the nations of Khorvaire into putting an army at the party’s backs seems unlikely given the lingering results of the Last War. At least in the short term.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tersival, post: 7042328, member: 6792135"] It’s been so long since I’ve found and interesting Everton chat, this thread is awesome 😊 Thank you so much. I was sure I’d seen a write up and map of Thronehold but just Could. Not. Find. It. Again. Myself. Agreed. So far I think they worked best as a prestige class but I don’t see prestige classes coming back in 5E and really like Aldarc’s suggestion that Dragonmarks provide advantage to relevant proficiencies too. That really feels right for 5E and would be a nice balance to the rather lacklustre spell once per long test suggested in the unearthed arcane update, but what skills for each Mark? High praise considering the source, thank you. I feel that might be arguable given what you've shared. I wish I’d come across your ideas before I started my campaign, dragonshards are practically signature items for Eberron! Now I absolutely have to figure out how to incorporate them and have completely missed them so far. I guess I was ambitious but I survived playing through an epic Dragonlance campaign and felt a dragon themed campaign/adventure path should be equally epic. Plus I was rewarding my players’ trust in me moving on to 5E by not penalising their character advancements and so started them off as 12th level renowned veterans of the Last War. Big picture I’m pretty happy with the logic behind my campaign and the related role of dragons in Khorvaire/Eberron... I figured Dragons’ belief Tiamat is imprisoned beneath Argonessan in the Pit of Five Sorrows is reasonably based on draconic eye witness accounts of her fall. They dominate Argonessan, utterly crushed the giants, struck hard against Aerenal, but in Khorvaire they seem secretive or guardians of ancient places of dangerous power. To me this points to them being much more heirs of ancient secrets pond powers than random monsters. If Tiamat did have power to corrupt chromatic dragons/half of dragon kind and the Talons of Tiamat have failed to free her in the 100,000 years since her imprisonment it’s probably because fear of her escape, and the risk of being enslaved again is why dragons dominate Argonessan and likely means they’ve they’re ruthlessly exterminated the cult (along with all possible witnsss?) every time they’ve popped up. If a magical dragon horn could be heard by and summon dragons from across the realms, it would likely draw an overwhelming response by the rulers of Argonnesan so I dropped that entirely. On the other hand, if there were traces of Tiamat’s corrupting influence left in scales she might have shed in a remote, long forgotten lair, forging these into enchanted masks might let the Talons secretly strengthen their power base dramatically by enslaving vulnerable dragons before Argonessan’s rulers took the threat seriously enough to respond. Details (like featuring Eberron’s iconic dragonshards!) are where I feel I’m falling down. Giants as a coherent power group seems too contrary to canon history to fit Eberron, but some left over “technologies” from when their magic was strong enough to provoke a catastrophic dragon attack, that’s another story. A giant built and giant-ghost powered floating castle are pretty cool, but I think the ghost is better a remnant of the ancient past dominated by the cult (or a powerful vampire employed by the cult perhaps) rather than one influenced by a living giant. So Blagothkus is out but Esclarotta’s ghost is likely favourable towards anyone who might free her from domination, and if they can present a way to strike back at the dragons who destroyed her civilization so much the better! But even starting my party at 12th level (they’re 13 nearly 14 now), they found a clever single adult dragon was deadly. They’re reluctant to risk facing multiple and/or more dragons with or without cultists in tow. Uniting the nations of Khorvaire into putting an army at the party’s backs seems unlikely given the lingering results of the Last War. At least in the short term. [/QUOTE]
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