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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2129980" data-attributes="member: 29014">Level 4 fighter was hasted, polymorphed into a troll, bull's strengthed, and GMWed. He had a keen mercurial greatsword (all perfectly viable in 3.0). Two attacks, both hit and one was a 19 for a crit. Dead balor (they really had a glass jaw back in 3.0, check out the HP).&nbsp; The party had prepared for fighting demons, since they knew that's what they'd be doing.&nbsp; They just didn't expect the succubus to actually succeed at her balor summoning ability.&nbsp;The CR 13 girl was the FB's daughter, and he had decided to min/max her to high heaven just for fun (Fighter/Monk/Cleric/MysticWanderer/Duelist/Templar with the Nymph Unearthly Grace ability due to her half-nymph heritage). So she was basically immune to anything that required saves or AC (and importantly, they didn't know whom they were fighting until it was over and the FB cut his own daughter in half, causing him to reel out of Frenzy in shock and summarily die). Then the bad guys captured her and strapped her to a magic item that the PCs had bumblingly let them steal, which actually let her make decent attacks, which certainly put her EL above 13. But her CR was still 13.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 2129980, member: 29014"] Level 4 fighter was hasted, polymorphed into a troll, bull's strengthed, and GMWed. He had a keen mercurial greatsword (all perfectly viable in 3.0). Two attacks, both hit and one was a 19 for a crit. Dead balor (they really had a glass jaw back in 3.0, check out the HP). The party had prepared for fighting demons, since they knew that's what they'd be doing. They just didn't expect the succubus to actually succeed at her balor summoning ability. The CR 13 girl was the FB's daughter, and he had decided to min/max her to high heaven just for fun (Fighter/Monk/Cleric/MysticWanderer/Duelist/Templar with the Nymph Unearthly Grace ability due to her half-nymph heritage). So she was basically immune to anything that required saves or AC (and importantly, they didn't know whom they were fighting until it was over and the FB cut his own daughter in half, causing him to reel out of Frenzy in shock and summarily die). Then the bad guys captured her and strapped her to a magic item that the PCs had bumblingly let them steal, which actually let her make decent attacks, which certainly put her EL above 13. But her CR was still 13. [/QUOTE]

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