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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2131587" data-attributes="member: 29014">For the record, the Wizard7 had a caster level hike up to 9 for the GMW, and as a cohort, the party bought him his sword.&nbsp; As I originally mentioned, he was a cohort with buffs, which implies that he would be stronger than a typical Fighter4 because of his relatively powerful allies.Oh, and point about 3.0 fiends allowing more space for class levels is specious.&nbsp; A 3.0 Balor with 2 related class levels has the same CR as the 3.5 Balor, and it is much much weaker.&nbsp; Outsider levels, after all, are pretty good compared to NPC classes and many PC classes.&nbsp; The 3.5 fiends are not much more CR, if any, but are actually strong enough for their CR.&nbsp; Unless, I guess, you meant that you would add on more than 2 related class levels to a 3.0 Balor and call it even because he was so weak anyway.&nbsp; That's a perfectly viable strategy, I suppose.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 2131587, member: 29014"] For the record, the Wizard7 had a caster level hike up to 9 for the GMW, and as a cohort, the party bought him his sword. As I originally mentioned, he was a cohort with buffs, which implies that he would be stronger than a typical Fighter4 because of his relatively powerful allies. Oh, and point about 3.0 fiends allowing more space for class levels is specious. A 3.0 Balor with 2 related class levels has the same CR as the 3.5 Balor, and it is much much weaker. Outsider levels, after all, are pretty good compared to NPC classes and many PC classes. The 3.5 fiends are not much more CR, if any, but are actually strong enough for their CR. Unless, I guess, you meant that you would add on more than 2 related class levels to a 3.0 Balor and call it even because he was so weak anyway. That's a perfectly viable strategy, I suppose. [/QUOTE]

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