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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nothing to see here" data-source="post: 2235418" data-attributes="member: 16432">Actually, WOTC have already told us that Heroes of Battle precisely WILL NOT have any sort of mass battle system included, which is unfortunate.  Outside of a feeble attempt to work mass battles into the the minitures game, WOTC have apparently decided to cede the subject matter to third party publishers.I'm essentially with nebulous all the way on this one.  By far and away I find Fields and Blood and Grim Tales to be the cream of the crop.  However (and as a Fields of Blood fan, this pains me) I've found the Fields of Blood rules set to be a little rigid in places, making adaptations difficult.  The Grim Tales system on the other hand is one of the most elegant d20 system mechanics I have seen though, like you, I have to fiddle with it, as there are a couple of elements missing from it that I would like to see.</blockquote>