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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Luz" data-source="post: 7089783" data-attributes="member: 94725">Further ideas to keep things varied, quoted from <a href="http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63234" target="_blank">this thread</a>:FreddyP wrote: "One idea I had was to use a rival adventuring party. When the heroes discover that the friendly/not-so-friendly group is using the bad guys against one another, they might feel more privy to do so themselves."The other idea I had was to have people from the various temples out and about mostly in Nulb but perhaps even Homlett as well. Have them staging attacks on other rival groups. For instance, the Air Temple has a lucrative caravan coming through from Dyvers. The Earth Temple recruits in Nulb for an assault on the caravan outside of town. They're in bars recruiting people. They try to recruit people who are spies to the Fire Temple. Now the Fire Temple starts recruiting people and will decide which side to help at the last moment. Think Gangs of New York but in Nulb.Just telling the heroes "the temple factions are in disarray and are always jockeying for position" doesn't mean squat to them unless they can do something to change the position. The heroes need immersed in the petty politics of Nulb, Homlett and the Temple for the campaign to come alive and not just be a huge dungeon crawl.Also, there are a lot of ogres, trolls and bugbears in this dungeon. This suggests to me there are decent sized tribes of each creature nearby. In the Kron Hills and Gnarley Woods, there is plenty of room for some big humanoid camps. I want my players to eventually deal with the chieftans of these tribes. Perhaps removing one of these tribes can affect that race inside the temple."ChrisL wrote: "In fact, the troll chieftain and perhaps bugbear chieftain on level two fit perfectly. A rival tribe in the forests nearby could add an interesting twist. Imagine PC's recruiting a tribe to help them clear out the Temple...not LG PC's, of course."</blockquote>

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