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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 9864195" data-attributes="member: 19675">Just because one genre evolves out of another doesn’t necessarily make it derivative.Punk was reactionary to prior genres, especially things like prog.  While it shares some superficial characteristics with Metal, they have different musical foundations.  And notably, punk is usually ascribed to have a social ethos outside of the music itself.Like Punk, most early New Wave was largely a reaction to and rejection of prior musical conventions.Rap has some of the oldest constituent elements in music, and it borrows musical elements freely from most other genres.  But it’s not really based in the conventions of modern popular music.  The introduction of sampling via turntables was musically and technologically innovative.Arguably, none of the fusion genres should be considered derivative because there’s no unbroken musicological lineage between them and the genres they meld.  They’re chimeras that can combine extremely different, unrelated elements.  So things like Prog Punk, Nü Metal, Shoegaze, Reggae Metal, Country Rap, and so forth don’t come into being naturally, like different rivers flowing into a larger body of water.  They are consciously crammed together, sometimes in anticipation of creating mental dissonance.</blockquote>