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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9864373" data-attributes="member: 15700">I'm saying those other examples aren't relevant because they aren't peoples' jobs. They're hobbies.  My uncle Joe the fiddler doesn't play the fiddle at family gatherings as his job. And hobbies didn't end with recorded music. Or photography.I'm demanding proof that recorded music killed off professional musician careers. Or photography killed off all professional artists.  One thing that keeps getting missed that I keep bringing up is whenever someone gives an example of a job being replaced, it's only one job in narrow field of an entire umbrella of similar careers."Look! The printing press eliminated all these people making illuminated books!""Not really, as those people didn't really lose their jobs, they just started using the tool to make more books than they could before. Not only that, but it increased creative jobs like writers who could enter the industry because it's now easier for them to get their writing in print. That's the opposite of an entire industry being massively reduced.""Look! Photographs killed off this group of painters!""Yeah, but they are just a small subset of professional artists. We saw more professional artists enter the industry as media took off." Who do you think was doing all the art for magazines, ads, movies, book covers, etc.?It's why I keep saying apples and oranges.Look around. I don't mean that dismissively, even though it sounds that way. Just in this thread you've got people talking about how AI is going to replace their jobs (like mine).  As an indie publisher, I am very keenly aware at the flood of AI created art and writing that is drowning actual humans. Leaders of the industry are telling us they are using AI going forward (of course corporations are always about profit, and the first thing corporations do to maximize profit is to eliminate staff).  I'm friends with dozens of professional artists, and all have seen their work drop. Media companies are using AI instead of hiring creative firms. Heck, the Superbowl was full of AI ads, with one literally showing how AI can replace the film industry.If it wasn't for the backlash against AI, it would be even worse.  And that backlash is slowly eroding as it becomes more mainstream. So proof that AI is killing the artist profession? It's all around us. It's like a cancer.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Job Declines: In 2025, job postings for creative roles dropped significantly, with computer graphic artists down 33%, photographers down 28%, and writers down 28%.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Freelancer Impact: A 2024 survey showed that over a quarter of illustrators (26%) and over a third of translators (36%) have already lost work due to AI.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Future Outlook: Roughly 64% of marketers believe AI will replace them within 5 years, and 65% of fiction writers believe AI will negatively impact their future income.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Content Marketing: 90% of content marketers are expected to use AI by 2025, which reduces the demand for basic, non-distinctive writing. (source: <a href="https://bloomberry.com/blog/i-analyzed-180m-jobs-to-see-what-jobs-ai-is-actually-replacing-today/#:~:text=Could%20AI%20be%20partly%20responsible,to%20our%20%2D8%25%20benchmark:" target="_blank">Bloomberry</a>)</li> </ul>And we're still in the infancy of AI...</blockquote>

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