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<blockquote data-quote="Bacris" data-source="post: 4748166" data-attributes="member: 42502"><p>I have to admit, I was on the fence about 4E, from the build-up, the transcripts / recordings at the cons, the previews - I saw stuff I liked, and stuff I didn't.</p><p></p><p>Then it arrived and my DM got rid of all of 3.x sourcebooks and made the decision to migrate fully to 4E permanently.</p><p></p><p>Since then, our gaming group hasn't had more than 4 game sessions... The DM has tried (and succeeded in a couple instances) to get other gaming groups going, but 4E hasn't really grabbed us the way 3E has.</p><p></p><p>I don't know if it's resistance to the new edition, the actual rules, or what, but I have bought exactly one book for 4E. Compare this to the dozens of books I bought for 3.x and the fact that I also have dozens of books for 2nd Edition... and... well... I dunno, I thought I was the exception to the trend, rather than the rule...</p><p></p><p>But as a third party publisher, I've seen 3.x products continue to sell - and in some cases, sell well, while 4E products (admittedly, we only have two and one is an unusual publishing style) are rather luke-warm. I'm not inclined to disagree with Ryan, despite his affiliations or past deeds.</p><p></p><p>Personally... 4E's fracturing of the market, lack of psionic support, my DM's firm stance of only playing 4E, and overall feel has somewhat put me off from RPGs. I've tried other gaming groups and enjoy it less than my DM's 4E games (which aren't bad from a DM perspective, mind you...)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bacris, post: 4748166, member: 42502"] I have to admit, I was on the fence about 4E, from the build-up, the transcripts / recordings at the cons, the previews - I saw stuff I liked, and stuff I didn't. Then it arrived and my DM got rid of all of 3.x sourcebooks and made the decision to migrate fully to 4E permanently. Since then, our gaming group hasn't had more than 4 game sessions... The DM has tried (and succeeded in a couple instances) to get other gaming groups going, but 4E hasn't really grabbed us the way 3E has. I don't know if it's resistance to the new edition, the actual rules, or what, but I have bought exactly one book for 4E. Compare this to the dozens of books I bought for 3.x and the fact that I also have dozens of books for 2nd Edition... and... well... I dunno, I thought I was the exception to the trend, rather than the rule... But as a third party publisher, I've seen 3.x products continue to sell - and in some cases, sell well, while 4E products (admittedly, we only have two and one is an unusual publishing style) are rather luke-warm. I'm not inclined to disagree with Ryan, despite his affiliations or past deeds. Personally... 4E's fracturing of the market, lack of psionic support, my DM's firm stance of only playing 4E, and overall feel has somewhat put me off from RPGs. I've tried other gaming groups and enjoy it less than my DM's 4E games (which aren't bad from a DM perspective, mind you...) [/QUOTE]
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