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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5452202" data-attributes="member: 22779">Is there really a large lack of equivalence though?&nbsp; I have no idea.&nbsp; How much money does a game company see on one book vs how much they see on one subscription?&nbsp; Again, I have no idea.&nbsp; At a guess, I'd say they're not as far off as all that.&nbsp; Book retails at about 40 bucks, which means half to the retailer.&nbsp; Then half again to the distributor.&nbsp; So, ten bucks to WOTC.&nbsp; How much is a sub per month?&nbsp; It's about ten bucks isn't it?&nbsp; I doubt they're too far off actually.As far as your two last statements, yes, you're right that they are not incompatible.&nbsp; However, they are both entirely speculative.&nbsp; Neither of us has any idea how much of the fan base was lost by 4e.&nbsp; So, basing the idea that 4e has lost lots of fan base because of subscription numbers is about as meaningful as consulting the magic 8 ball.&nbsp; After all, if 3e had X number of fans and 50k subs for Dungeon and Dragon, and 4e has twice the number of subs for the DDI, does that mean it has twice the fans?I highly, highly doubt it.&nbsp; But, again, I have no idea how many players there actually are.&nbsp; But, then again, I'm not trying to say that 4e is successful.&nbsp; I have no idea.&nbsp; All I'm saying is that no one can make any real pronouncements, either way, because it's all pure speculation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5452202, member: 22779"] Is there really a large lack of equivalence though? I have no idea. How much money does a game company see on one book vs how much they see on one subscription? Again, I have no idea. At a guess, I'd say they're not as far off as all that. Book retails at about 40 bucks, which means half to the retailer. Then half again to the distributor. So, ten bucks to WOTC. How much is a sub per month? It's about ten bucks isn't it? I doubt they're too far off actually. As far as your two last statements, yes, you're right that they are not incompatible. However, they are both entirely speculative. Neither of us has any idea how much of the fan base was lost by 4e. So, basing the idea that 4e has lost lots of fan base because of subscription numbers is about as meaningful as consulting the magic 8 ball. After all, if 3e had X number of fans and 50k subs for Dungeon and Dragon, and 4e has twice the number of subs for the DDI, does that mean it has twice the fans? I highly, highly doubt it. But, again, I have no idea how many players there actually are. But, then again, I'm not trying to say that 4e is successful. I have no idea. All I'm saying is that no one can make any real pronouncements, either way, because it's all pure speculation. [/QUOTE]

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