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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 8879847" data-attributes="member: 20741">Oh FFS.  HERE is what I know:After 4e was announced - WotC bailed on GenCon;After 4e, Pathfinder sales took off with a bullet. So did the message traffic here. It was the game that mattered here when D&D didn't. Or did you think that 1.2 million messages happened by accident?After 4e - ICV2 rated PF consistently as number 1 for SEVERAL YEARS.When I was the Paizo correspondent here on ENWorld? I was contacted by a store owner in 2011 that there was a LARGE amount of brand new 4e product being sold at liquidation prices by a distributor in both Ontario and New York. The reception to this news on ENWorld was as hostile as it ever got for me. D&D adherents were UPSET to hear this news about 4e.  [This is the same edition others now claim sold better than 3.x? DELUSIONAL. ]A great selling game, the rebranded under the Essential line and then both version were sold at liquidation prices to retailers -- and then D&D abandoned the market for 2 years, ceding it to Paizo outright.Even after 5e was released, it took about 18 months for 5e to get going and find its legs. It wasn't until 2016 that 5e was back in the pole position.But sales were always great?Put down that Kool-Aid.</blockquote>