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<blockquote data-quote="CleverName" data-source="post: 3000211" data-attributes="member: 2591"><p>Man, I am getting tired of all this chest-thumping and whining. </p><p></p><p>RANT FOLLOWS</p><p></p><p>I got to tell you I don't buy gaming products I don't want to buy. Neither should you. So all this carping about "greedy" game companies is just CRAP on soooo many levels. Don't like it? Don't buy it! </p><p></p><p>Game companies with bad business practices and/or bad products go out of business. Game companies with healthy business practices, a little luck, and good/fun games <strong>that people want to buy</strong> stay in business. </p><p></p><p>Pissing and moaning, and worse yet, <strong>MORALIZING</strong> about it is well, pathetic. </p><p></p><p>It's not like there's a frickin' cabal of evil genii in suits surrounded by bags of their ill-gotten gains at WotC's HQ or at WW or SJG. Sure they have business concerns; they have accountants. Sure, they make BAD, short-sighted decisions from time to time. Sure, just like us, there are some idiots and jerks there. But, it comes down to this: successful or not they are all trying $ell us $omething. Some are just better at it than others. Every once and a while someone strikes gold, like with Magic, etc. Good lord, we all know that does not happen very often. Why folks feel compelled to vomit on some GAMER'S success is beyond me. </p><p></p><p>Maybe all niche groups are like this. I don’t know. It still chaps my wide gamer bum that so many folks here equate companies trying to make games that sell with some kind of sin. I just met too many of them that go off on WotC as if they were the Microsoft of gaming – that;s like saying X is the Microsoft of Match stick collectibles – what a joke! </p><p> I’ve got to wonder at the gaming community we really want with folks foaming at the mouth about D&D 4e, of all things, and others driving their own FLGS out of business to save 15% on some gaming stuff by eBaying it. </p><p></p><p>I like music. I don't get on J-Lo's website to vent about her mediocre music...I just don’t buy it. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying the almighty dollar <strong> is </strong> or should be the arbiter of gaming taste or artistry. But neither is it the mark of Satan. This "how dare they attempt a profit!" attitude is juvenile. Cuz' with a FEW exceptions -- that's all ANYONE in gaming is doing, making a (usually megre) living.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CleverName, post: 3000211, member: 2591"] Man, I am getting tired of all this chest-thumping and whining. RANT FOLLOWS I got to tell you I don't buy gaming products I don't want to buy. Neither should you. So all this carping about "greedy" game companies is just CRAP on soooo many levels. Don't like it? Don't buy it! Game companies with bad business practices and/or bad products go out of business. Game companies with healthy business practices, a little luck, and good/fun games [B]that people want to buy[/B] stay in business. Pissing and moaning, and worse yet, [B]MORALIZING[/B] about it is well, pathetic. It's not like there's a frickin' cabal of evil genii in suits surrounded by bags of their ill-gotten gains at WotC's HQ or at WW or SJG. Sure they have business concerns; they have accountants. Sure, they make BAD, short-sighted decisions from time to time. Sure, just like us, there are some idiots and jerks there. But, it comes down to this: successful or not they are all trying $ell us $omething. Some are just better at it than others. Every once and a while someone strikes gold, like with Magic, etc. Good lord, we all know that does not happen very often. Why folks feel compelled to vomit on some GAMER'S success is beyond me. Maybe all niche groups are like this. I don’t know. It still chaps my wide gamer bum that so many folks here equate companies trying to make games that sell with some kind of sin. I just met too many of them that go off on WotC as if they were the Microsoft of gaming – that;s like saying X is the Microsoft of Match stick collectibles – what a joke! I’ve got to wonder at the gaming community we really want with folks foaming at the mouth about D&D 4e, of all things, and others driving their own FLGS out of business to save 15% on some gaming stuff by eBaying it. I like music. I don't get on J-Lo's website to vent about her mediocre music...I just don’t buy it. I'm not saying the almighty dollar [B] is [/B] or should be the arbiter of gaming taste or artistry. But neither is it the mark of Satan. This "how dare they attempt a profit!" attitude is juvenile. Cuz' with a FEW exceptions -- that's all ANYONE in gaming is doing, making a (usually megre) living. [/QUOTE]
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