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<blockquote data-quote="sullivan" data-source="post: 3001627" data-attributes="member: 28152">Roll the sucker. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; I've seen this used in house rule lots over the years.&nbsp; You look for some special feature in the terrain that you might expect to find, but it isn't certain.&nbsp; Say a tree on rolling praire.&nbsp; Sometimes there will be one nearby, sometimes there won't.This Burning Wheel I was talking about actually has a rule for no-rules.&nbsp; It's called the Die of Fate.&nbsp; The game uses d6 exclusively. So you roll a d6 and if it comes up 1 then there is a tree nearby.Note that this isn't for anything that is a character ability, or a player being a total hose-head.&nbsp; The system uses an open-ended Skills system, with underlying Attributes. So anything the character is doing there is a roll for. And the DM and the players are expected to agree on this. They also agree on the consequences, good or bad, before the roll.I recommend the book just for reading, even if you never play the game.&nbsp; It shows how you can run a sucsessful story centric game by the rules. Obviously it is crunchier than D&amp;D, just for the simple fact that it actually handles social conflicts between characters at the same level as sword fights.&nbsp; But it isn't really as much a page flipper in the end.&nbsp; In no small part because there are only a few books total.&nbsp;&nbsp; The system is also tighter, more self-consistant. The base of D&amp;D is straight forward.&nbsp; It is the exceptions and little side details that kill you in D&amp;D.Also players are explicitly charged with being rules mongers.&nbsp; It is the antithesis of the DM as the &quot;server&quot;, players as &quot;terminals&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sullivan, post: 3001627, member: 28152"] Roll the sucker. :) I've seen this used in house rule lots over the years. You look for some special feature in the terrain that you might expect to find, but it isn't certain. Say a tree on rolling praire. Sometimes there will be one nearby, sometimes there won't. This Burning Wheel I was talking about actually has a rule for no-rules. It's called the Die of Fate. The game uses d6 exclusively. So you roll a d6 and if it comes up 1 then there is a tree nearby. Note that this isn't for anything that is a character ability, or a player being a total hose-head. The system uses an open-ended Skills system, with underlying Attributes. So anything the character is doing there is a roll for. And the DM and the players are expected to agree on this. They also agree on the consequences, good or bad, before the roll. I recommend the book just for reading, even if you never play the game. It shows how you can run a sucsessful story centric game [I]by the rules[/I]. Obviously it is crunchier than D&D, just for the simple fact that it actually handles social conflicts between characters at the same level as sword fights. But it isn't really as much a page flipper in the end. In no small part because there are only a few books total. The system is also tighter, more self-consistant. The base of D&D is straight forward. It is the exceptions and little side details that kill you in D&D. Also [I]players[/I] are explicitly charged with being rules mongers. It is the antithesis of the DM as the "server", players as "terminals". [/QUOTE]

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