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<blockquote data-quote="sullivan" data-source="post: 3001834" data-attributes="member: 28152">What is an example of what you have in mind?&nbsp; Because this is about a rare exception.I think this kinda goes back to the rules themselves, which are key to the success. Basically in Burning Wheel the rules are constructed much more than D&amp;D to be universal, and less exception based.&nbsp; Social conflict resolution is the model that melee and ranged combat are based on. &quot;War is the pursuit of diplomancy by other means&quot; is quite literally true in Burning Wheel.&nbsp; And these all use the same basic Skills mechanism as is used for tasks that fall outside of those two.In short it would indeed be difficult to do this in 3e D&amp;D because the rules don't have the infrastructure support it.&nbsp; Indeed if you just say &quot;I move the burden from the DM to the rules&quot; without beefing up the rules to handle the extra responsibilities then bad things indeed will occur.P.S.&nbsp; If you are relying on a sense that is not shared by those around the table then exactly how common is it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sullivan, post: 3001834, member: 28152"] What is an example of what you have in mind? Because this is about a rare exception. I think this kinda goes back to the rules themselves, which are key to the success. Basically in Burning Wheel the rules are constructed much more than D&D to be universal, and less exception based. Social conflict resolution is the model that melee and ranged combat are based on. "War is the pursuit of diplomancy by other means" is quite literally true in Burning Wheel. And these all use the same basic Skills mechanism as is used for tasks that fall outside of those two. In short it would indeed be difficult to do this in 3e D&D because the rules don't have the infrastructure support it. Indeed if you just say "I move the burden from the DM to the rules" without beefing up the rules to handle the extra responsibilities then [I]bad[/I] things indeed will occur. P.S. If you are relying on a [i]sense[/i] that is not shared by those around the table then exactly how [i]common[/i] is it? [/QUOTE]

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