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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 3699224" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>Just curious, but are you willing to share, generally, the percent of sales that are US vs. UK vs. other country?</p><p></p><p>I just wonder if some disconnect between numbers and between anecdotal evidence of "gamers we know" or "stores nearby" might because you have a strong presence outside of the US, whereas at least with myself - "gamers I know" and "stores nearby" have actually very little presence outside of the US. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And as skeptical as I am of Ryan's numbers as well, it's at least a methodical way to try and come to a number in an industry where sales numbers are typically quite secret (thanks, by the way, Matt, for sharing what info you have). One problem I see with his numbers is figuring that rounding the numbers up to more generous levels accounts for PDF sales and Amazon, etc. Not sure what the latest numbers are for PDF sales, but I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sales are at least equal to FLGS sales across the industry. Throw in some chain bookstores as well (which, I don't *think* his numbers include), and the FLGS market is actually the minority of sales.</p><p></p><p>But, I have no numbers to back that, just some background having worked at Borders bookstores HQ as well as reasoned thinking. So I could be entirely wrong, of course. But I'm thinking it's a safe bet that Amazon sales are far, far larger than what Ryan is factoring at least for industry leaders like WotC. What would be interesting is if Scott could mention percent of D&D sales through Amazon vs. FGLS, etc. It could potentially shot a very large hole in Ryan's estimate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 3699224, member: 40359"] Just curious, but are you willing to share, generally, the percent of sales that are US vs. UK vs. other country? I just wonder if some disconnect between numbers and between anecdotal evidence of "gamers we know" or "stores nearby" might because you have a strong presence outside of the US, whereas at least with myself - "gamers I know" and "stores nearby" have actually very little presence outside of the US. ;) And as skeptical as I am of Ryan's numbers as well, it's at least a methodical way to try and come to a number in an industry where sales numbers are typically quite secret (thanks, by the way, Matt, for sharing what info you have). One problem I see with his numbers is figuring that rounding the numbers up to more generous levels accounts for PDF sales and Amazon, etc. Not sure what the latest numbers are for PDF sales, but I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sales are at least equal to FLGS sales across the industry. Throw in some chain bookstores as well (which, I don't *think* his numbers include), and the FLGS market is actually the minority of sales. But, I have no numbers to back that, just some background having worked at Borders bookstores HQ as well as reasoned thinking. So I could be entirely wrong, of course. But I'm thinking it's a safe bet that Amazon sales are far, far larger than what Ryan is factoring at least for industry leaders like WotC. What would be interesting is if Scott could mention percent of D&D sales through Amazon vs. FGLS, etc. It could potentially shot a very large hole in Ryan's estimate. [/QUOTE]
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