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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4185318" data-attributes="member: 5202">Nice to see an interest in civil discussion on ENWorld.  Why not just go ahead and call me a moron?* Ergo, Dancey was wrong.WotC's choice.  We can't force them to take anything and include it wholecloth in their game.  They were completely ABLE to tho.  Obviously they felt many IDEAS generated by other companies were pretty good considering versions of them are in 4E.The model of a gaming store worked for many years, but it didn't change to match society.  CD sales are down but people are buying tons of tracks off iTunes.  The music industry is slowly changing to avoid its own death.  The game store itself has been in a downward spiral for about 15 years now.  The game industry seems to be doing better to me than it was prior to 3E being released.  Yes there are less stores that are heavily focused on gaming stores, but of the 6 or 7 big chain book stores in the Louisville area only 1 carries no gaming books at all.  We also have 1 store that is basically RPG/War Machine, another store that is board games and RPGs and a game/comic/used cd store.  Throw in Book & Music Exchange and the couple of Half Price Books I've been to and you have a pretty good gaming situation going here.Is everywhere like Louisville?  No I'm sure they aren't.  Iowa City IA used to have 2 game stores, a store that was science kits, minis and the best RPG selection in town, and another game store or 2 up in Cedar Rapids.  Plus all the B&N and such in the area all carried gaming products.  All the game shops closed up within 4 months of each other and only one has opened since, I hope it's still there, been a bit over a year since I was there.  I can only speak from my purchasing experience.  Heck, look back to before 3E was released.  How many places could you go online and order pdfs of gaming products?  How many books get bought from Amazon or one of the brick and mortar chain's online store every day?  The industry has changed, but I don't see it as a declining industry.  It merely has more and better (than in the past) competition.  Video games that are closing on human appearance, the internet, movies, reading (ok not likely but hey!), raising kids, being a kid, school, work.  Then there is the economy w/raised prices everywhere.  The game industry is likely suffering from the depressed pocketbook of individuals who have to spend more of their entertainment money on needed items now.  All industries are feeling that pinch tho.</blockquote>

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