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<blockquote data-quote="Zene" data-source="post: 6994903" data-attributes="member: 6863496"><p>If someone is incanting verbal components, I can hear it's a spell being cast and see their lips moving. If someone is waving their hands around Dr Strange style, I can see they're casting a spell. But if a spell only requires material components (a focus), and not verbal or somatic components, it is indistinguishable from just holding the focus. So what is telling me a spell is being cast? How would I know that guy with a hand in his pocket, or that paladin carrying a shield, are casting spells? Like are you envisioning visible magical waves radiating out from the focus or something? I don't think there's anything in the rules that indicates that --and if there were, that would make the designer's decision to call it "Subtle Spell" a very odd decision. Although sure you could houserule it that way if you want to nerf Subtle Spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zene, post: 6994903, member: 6863496"] If someone is incanting verbal components, I can hear it's a spell being cast and see their lips moving. If someone is waving their hands around Dr Strange style, I can see they're casting a spell. But if a spell only requires material components (a focus), and not verbal or somatic components, it is indistinguishable from just holding the focus. So what is telling me a spell is being cast? How would I know that guy with a hand in his pocket, or that paladin carrying a shield, are casting spells? Like are you envisioning visible magical waves radiating out from the focus or something? I don't think there's anything in the rules that indicates that --and if there were, that would make the designer's decision to call it "Subtle Spell" a very odd decision. Although sure you could houserule it that way if you want to nerf Subtle Spell. [/QUOTE]
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